PatsandTrojans55
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All good points; I personally have no horse in the race, I've said repeatedly, I have no idea what they are going to do on Draft Day - they always surprise me and always catch me unaware. You may be misinterpreting my comments on the "Why draft Long" thread as hope that we pick him, or interest in picking him, but honestly, I don't think he represents #7 value either (I've said a few times already, to me, for the Pats, I don't think there IS a #7 value guy available to us at #7 which is why I've hoped we trade down for a very long time). With that said, I could go into responses to your responses but that doesn't help anything or prove either of us right or wrong, I'm still speculating, and you could be rooting, hoping, or distracting for any number of deliberate or unintended reasons. From what I've read, I've yet to see any "real" scoops from what you've posted (not a knock, like Pony said above, I do enjoy reading your posts immensely, and with a few exceptions, I'm generally right there with you on your 'take' on the team from many angles, this just happens to be one where I a. don't agree with you and b. think it would definitely be in BB/Pioli's best interest to create a lot of hype surrounding Ellis at #7 to afford us a good trade down opportunity, which could certainly explain all your previous "rightness" and the possibility of there still being misdirection in this case...heck, I would, it would totally be worth it imo to get a lot of teams thinking we love Ellis via the "viral" route since they are often closed lipped to the media). Ultimately I'll be curious to see how Saturday an Sunday pan out, and if they take Ellis, I'll assume it's for a good reason and I'll be the first to give credit where credit is/was due for breaking the news (fingers crossed regardless) but my gut still tells me Ellis is not our guy for a variety of reasons - your zeal is only one of them.
Zeke,
Part 2
My question to you is who are they "smokescreening" with Sedrick Ellis? The Jets are looking to trade down as a viable option anyway. The Ravens don't need Ellis. The logical choice is Cincinnati, but why?
If they are smokescreening it would be the Jets and Ellis is not the choice to smokescreen with because they would need Ellis after trading Robertson away and it would defeat the purpose of the screen. More logical smokescreen players would be McFadden, Gholston or Long (which ever one you don't want) so they panic and pick the screen and your guy falls in your lap.
The point is Ellis is high on the Patriots board and my source along with other well-respected Patriots insiders couldn't ALL be wrong.
By the way, even if Gholston and Ellis are on the board don't be surprised if they trade down anyway if they deem the value is deemed high. Remember, They feel they have "ALOT of flexablility" here and are not filling what they deem as "pressing needs".
Again,
Thanks for your reply and I enjoy your conversation and I'm not trying to change the way you feel here just giving you somethings to consider a thought on.
PT55