Discussion in 'Patriots Draft Talk' started by fumbrunner, Feb 22, 2013.
Bill, Make it happen.
Just so I have this straight, you want a JUCO WR, with only one single year of Div I football, to be drafted in the first round into a notoriously difficult offense for a WR to learn?
This is why I really hate combine week. It's all about track and field measurables and spin. Hopefully Bill is just there to gather additional information on players he's already interested in based on scouting reports and game film and probing their football intellect via initia interviews and gathering up their medical data.
And yet the combine/pro day is fundamental to how BB and the Pats grade prospects.
Make what happen?? A trade to move up?? Unless Mallett somehow is worth a high 1st rounder how do you propose we trade up to get him without using up all of our picks??
Maybe someone could plant some weed in his gym bag?
Patterson is a really intriguing prospect, but if he blows the scouts away on his 40 time, then there's no way we're going to be able to get him in the second round (where we, IMO, should be targeting a WR).
.... or have an obnoxious cop goad him into a fight.....
Is it really? I don't think so. I think they get enchanted every now and again, I remember Bill waxing poetic about how you can't coach speed when he drafted CJ...and it was true! I think they may take a closer look at guys they overlooked or recheck the reports on guys who underwhelm. But by and large their board is based on scouting and film. Film is what he went back to on Brady because measurables and concensus scouting sure weren't cutting it. Bill said a long time ago that the combine focus on track and field like measurables in shorts and tshirts and the amount of training athletes were putting in to it as opposed to working on football activities was a detriment to them and even to teams. He's there as much for the face to face opportunities and medicals as anything. They may have their interest piqued in someone they didn't scout much, perhaps an underclassman, or find themselves questioning someone they did. But like the hype it creates good teams usually end up going back to their own scouting and what the film tells them about how a player performs in pads.
He's the only WR in the top 8-9 I'm really not comfortable with drafting.
I think we're on to something here, let's hope the comish doesn't find out!!
Check out the combine times of all the WR's and CB's we've drafted in the 3-cone and 10 yd split. Also the vertical leap of the OL we've drafted. They're not getting drafted on film alone. Either that or there's a massive coincidence.
90% of which comes from medical and interviews.
Fine. Still has a purpose then.
How's his hands? If this guy is another Stephen Hill/DHB type we'd be better off picking up DHB in FA and drafting Austin.
If you pick up Patterson: Edelman-Lloyd-Patterson
Which does sound better than: Austin-Lloyd-DHB
Either way, without Welker, you gotta count on one of your new guys to be an instant hit.
Know any 5-0's in the Indy area?
With a great crop of WRs this year, I'm not worried about a specific one. I just want to see the Patriots move up in round 2 and take their pick.
The workout portion isn't of any value without the tape but if you have two prospect who you have with the same grade and one tests better in every measurable it would be foolish not to move him ahead of the other prospect.....right until you get to the interview and find one guy a knucklehead. Patterson would very well test very well but I'd rather have Allen assuming the interviews go well. It's too bad in some regards he's not working out but maybe it will allow him to slip to us.
No, just get him to punch a cop.
We've gone the weed and drilling a cop prospect. We need someone to declare he's never going to play in the NFL and wants to play in Russia. KFL. That will surely drop his status.
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