MitchKumstein
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.I just had a discussion with a Steelers fan about this. My first reply was this:
"Just so you know... the filming of teams defensive signals was legal at the time they're talking about in this article. In fact, it's still legal to film teams defensive signals today, although it wouldn't do a lot of good since they're radioed in now.
The location of the camera has been restricted since a memo was sent out in 2007 and that's what the Patriots were penalized for. That memo wasn't even an official rule change - those have to be voted in by all 32 teams during the off season meeting. So the Patriots were basically punished for failing to properly read a memo."
I followed it up with:
"To your original point - that the Patriots "had the Steelers defensive signals". Let's say that they did. So, they legally filmed the Steelers defensive signals when they played them earlier in the season, and then studied those signals in case they didn't change them for the AFC Championship game. Then, they had a coach watch the Steelers sidelines and if the signals did match up to what they put on the field, they were able to counter every defensive alignment. This means that the Patriots caught the Steelers being stupid. Every team knows that every team tries to figure out their calls. Every team knows this is happening and changes their signals from game to game, especially against the same team they played earlier that season. A team that doesn't do that is just dumb."
Lastly I said this:
"If you want to see another version of a similar story, check out http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2696227
Smart football by the Dolphins. They found a way to gain an advantage. They outsmarted Belichick. And I bet that to this day, the Patriots now change their audible calls for every game."
I haven't heard back again.
Pitt beat the Pats in 2008 and 2013. They also won in 2004.
Can I say that they cheated as well and stole signals?
Simple fact is that the Pats have had historically better teams that Pitt.
I'd put that "He stopped listening at 'Just...,'" but it's the same idea.You lost him at "Just...."
We barely beat them by 24 that game. Had to be cheating.It was almost as if the Patriots knew that the Steelers couldn't cover Aaron Dobson when he scored two touchdowns, including an 81-yard catch. The Steelers must have left a "We Suck Against Shaky 2nd Year Receivers" play sheet in their locker room.
Tomlin tripping people...If BB did that he would have been suspended.OmG Steelers definitely cheated and stole signals and knew every play that was coming in those games!
They have a history of cheating! From admitting to winning all their SuperBowls in the 70s on steroids to Bill Cowher admitting to also saying he & everyone stole signals! He obviously passed down the tactics to Tomlin for their wins in 2008 and 2013! Once a cheater organization, always a cheater organization!
*obvious satire*
remember that nasty loss against the saints few years back? was that a monday night? we got our ass whooped. saints did everything right. we did everything wrong. it felt like they knew exactly what we were doing.
now i understand. that loss should be *. they were cheating.
They better get started on another salty thread. They are getting cheated out of win tonight. Boo hoo..... Ha haHere we go again
http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/...-old-wounds-for-Steelers/stories/201509100059
go to steelers forum, and they are more bitter than Jets & Colts forum combined. lol
This is the way i see it. After about ten or fifteen years everything will come out and brady,bb and the team will be exonerated. Goodell, his cronies, and the owners who backed this will be exposed.We just have to accept that there are a whole lot of people in this country who won't be satisfied until the Patriots are stripped of their Lombardi's, Belichick is "banned for life," Brady is suspended until he turns 65, the Patriots lose their Draft Picks for rounds 1--5 for ten years and Gillette Stadium is burned to the ground.
It is what it ****ing is and there's nothing meaningful we can do about it in the short term.
Eventually, after Belichick has been retired for a few years, things will calm down and, in about ten years, a reliable history of the witch hunts and nonsense will be written. Until then, just save your psychic energy for things you can control.
my stance with the haters is just to be an abrasive a hole. some people cant be reasoned with.