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  1. TommyBrady12

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    I hate the steelers, especially since one of their fans invented the bernard Pollard fan club t shirt.

    I wanted to get your views on whether or not you think the steelers are one of the NFL's elite teams or just a myth. They were notorious for taking steriods and other substances in the 70s. Those substances were not banned until later (1989), but they were clearly performance enhancing and is not the same as lifting weights. To me, steroids is far worse than video taping. we video taped but whether it helped the team or not is questionable especially since we had two winning seasons after we got caught.

    Something tells me the steelers D this year is just a product of steroids and HGH.

    Dr. Richard Rydze is latest in Pittsburgh Steelers' links to performance-enhancing drugs - ESPN
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    Something tells me the steelers D this year is just a product of steroids and HGH

    Talent, drive, and intelligent play-calling are not a result of steroids. I'm not saying none of the Steelers do steroids, I have no information regarding that, but it's very foolish to attribute success simply to steroids.
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    Pathetic. Enough said.
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    Stop. I hate the Steelers as much as anyone but that defense is what we should all want ours to be. The only thing that bothers me about them is that they haven't had to go through us in the playoffs to get to either of their 21st century Superbowls, that's extremely irritating. It's like the Redskins in the 80s winning those 2 titles without having to go through San Fran, pretenders to the crown.

    I wish them luck though, it's the sporting thing to do, although I hope the Cardinals roll them.
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    Like it or not, they are clearly a dynasty, I'd go so far as to say the greatest NFL dynasty. They're on their way to a 6th Super Bowl title, they've been in 14 AFCCG's and have been a very good team every decade since the 70's, the only team to have at least one Super Bowl appearance in the past 4 decades.

    You are talking close to 40 years of excellence, noone can top that, end of story........
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    If they win...Dynasty. Patriots fans, face the facts, this isn't 2001-2004 anymore. The Steelers are the class to beat in the AFC Now. That D is pretty darn good. Sure, people will bash me and say...hey, who was in the supper bowl last year....ya ok...but what wins supper bowls???????????? Defense..... The Patriots need to upgrade there D to get past the Steelers the next few years to come.
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    #15 Jersey

    How are they a dynasty? IMO, a dynasty is a franchise who wins World Championships, and they last won in 2005. They have been very good, but the benchmark for dynasties are WC's.
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    No, sorry. If you win and then win again next year, you might be up for dynasty consideration. But winning one, not winning a playoff game for two years, and then winning another one doesn't make you even close to a dynasty.
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    I would say if the Steelers win, the "dynasty" label is up for grabs during the 2009 season between NE and Pittsburgh. Neither team would be truly deserving. The Pats haven't won since 2004 and the Steelers would have only won 2 this decade. I think any team claiming to have a "dynasty" should be able to successfully defend their title. The Pats have done this, and if they take it next year that's 4 in a decade. On the other hand if the Steelers do it again that's 3/5 with a repeat, and that would be deserving.
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    Actually they were pretty bad in the 80s. Mark Malone, followed by Bubby Brister... Ugh.
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    Really? Are the 04-07 Red Sox a dynasty? Exact same thing, title, miss playoffs one year, no playoff wins the next, title. Didn't think so.
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    Our Rodney was on HGH too as well as Kaczur with situations involving drugs usage so lets stop the whole NFL is wrong and the Patriots are right Bullsh!t
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    "How are they a dynasty? IMO, a dynasty is a franchise who wins World Championships, and they last won in 2005. They have been very good, but the benchmark for dynasties are WC's."

    Did you read what I wrote? 14 AFCCG's, 7 Super Bowls, lining up for their 6th win, only an epic gag job will prevent it. And our home town team hasn't won a "WC" as you call it in four years, so what is your point really.

    Name me another team in the NFL with a better resume the past 35 or so years, I'm all ears.................
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    Let's slow down with the 40-year dynasty talk. The Steelers went 26 years between #4 and #5.
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    2005. Oh...THAT long ago :rolleyes:
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    "Let's slow down with the 40-year dynasty talk. The Steelers went 26 years between #4 and #5."

    Ok, and the Patriots went 41 years before they got their first one, but you wouldn't know that since you've been a fan for what, 7 years? And shouldn't you be watching Lakers/Cavs instead of posting here?

    It's ok to acknowledge another teams greatness, doesn't make you any less of a fan of your team if you do..............
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    Good morning, jackazz. No Pats fan is claiming a 40-year dynasty. Only a Steeler fan would. Reminds me of Celtics fans trying to connect the '08 title to the 60s/70s/80s.

    It would be hilarious if AZ whooped you....Karma indeed :)
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    Please explain how the Steelers late 70's dynasty is at all connected to today's team other than the fact that they are the same franchise? It isn't a dynasty now, it was then. The Celtics analogy is the best one I've seen and they only went 22 years between titles compared to the Steelers 26, the Celtics 08 title and any they win in the future aren't connected to their 80's teams just like the 86 team had nothing to do with the Celtics 60's title teams other than Red. The Steelers are the most successful franchise of the post merger era, and no one is debating that but the current Steelers aren't a dynasty, the 70's Steelers were.
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    I have to say that the Steelers of the 70's was a dynasty, but now they are just one championship every few years
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    San Francisco 49ers 1980-1995 with 5 Bowl Victories.

    Dallas Cowboys in the 1990's

    New England is still the team of the 21st Century whether the Steelers win in two weeks or not.
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    "Good morning, jackazz. No Pats fan is claiming a 40-year dynasty. Only a Steeler fan would. Reminds me of Celtics fans trying to connect the '08 title to the 60s/70s/80s.

    It would be hilarious if AZ whooped you....Karma indeed"

    Good morning to you too you effin stool sample; I'm a Patriots fan you brain dead moron, buy a clue next time you try to call me out on the forum.

    So are you off the Patriots band wagon yet since they didn't make the playoffs; I hope so, turds like you stain the entire Patriots fan base.

    You have to be one of those Lakers/Patriots/Yankee fans, the front running tool that you are..............
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    "Please explain how the Steelers late 70's dynasty is at all connected to today's team other than the fact that they are the same franchise? It isn't a dynasty now, it was then."

    Relax brainiac, you'll live a lot longer. Four AFCCG's and two Super Bowl wins (unless they pull a gag job like the Patriots did last year, ie, losing to a clearly inferior team that got hot/lucky at the right time) in eight years is a success in my book.

    The Patriots "should be" considered the team of the decade, unless without Casel and a gimpy Brady they go in the tank and the Steelers win another Super Bowl, then the Steelers with five AFCCG's and three Super Bowl wins in five years would be the leader in the clubhouse for that crown.

    Some of you need to switch to decaf.
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    Ever learn how to use the "Quote" button? :)

    You don't even realize the idiocy of your own statement - when's the last time the Pats/Lakers/Yankees won it all? Thank you, now back to your register at Taco Bell ;)
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    No one said it wasn't a success, maybe you should stop being a condescending prick?
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    The Steelers of the 70s are a dynasty, that's not up for argument.

    This current team is not a dynasty. They are a good team, with a good QB and a great defense that is going to their 2nd SB in 4 years. Denver won back to back, they weren't a dynasty. Green Bay went to 2 in a row, they weren't a dynasty, neither were the Rams. Neither is this Steelers team.

    However as a Franchise, they now have the opportunity to be considered the greatest Franchise in the Super Bowl era.

    Dallas has still been to more, 8, and the 9ers never lost, so there will still be some arguments to be made for other franchises. Longevity of success also plays part. They had a run in the 70s, back tracked in the 80s, had some success in the 90s then finally won again in the new century. Franchise, ownership, coaching history, they are solid as a Franchise.

    But they are not, and will not be a Dynasty until they win 2 more rings. Then this team can be talked about. As are the patriots now with 3 rings in 4 years.
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    Yeah the moron doesn't even realize we are complimenting the Steelers....
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    "You don't even realize the idiocy of your own statement - when's the last time the Pats/Lakers/Yankees won it all? Thank you, now back to your register at Taco Bell ;)"

    This from a moron frontrunning Lakers/Patriots/fill in the blank fan who doesn't get the point; the same tool who got b!tchslapped by a mod because he got into a p!ssing contest on the Celtics board.

    For you, a register at Taco Bell would be considered an executive position..........
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    "No one said it wasn't a success, maybe you should stop being a condescending prick?"

    It wasn't a "late 70's dynasty", they dominated the whole decade. And the way this team is connected to that team is it's the same franchise is it not?

    It is sustained excellence, close to 40 years of it; try wrapping yourself around that concept before you get your panties in a bunch.

    Decaf Mr 493 posts; decaf.
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    You really come off as childish with your need to talk down to someone who doesn't agree with you.

    As I said before the Steelers are the best franchise in the Superbowl era, no one denies this. The fact is that they still didn't win a Superbowl for a 26 year period, I don't consider them a 40 year "dynasty", I consider them one of the NFLs greatest all time franchises, a position I hope the Pats can match one day. But ya know, keep being a prick about the whole thing.
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    So what gives you this "frontrunning" radar - how can you prove you didn't start rooting for the Pats in 2004? Guess what? You can't :D
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