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    Anyone hear anything?
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    Please be OK.

    Peyton Manning will light Arrington up like a Menorah if he is going to start at CB.
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    I can't believe Arrington is still on the damn team. I thought they released him a while ago. I'm scared of our secondary. Dennard and Talib... that's all we got. If any of them goes down, we're screwed.
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    If he isn't 100% by the POs that'll be the biggest loss in this game. If he could've played towards the end of the game the Pats might've even pulled out the W; for every bit good Arrington is in the slot he's bad outside.
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    Agree , its i do not blame arrington that our FO did not have a another outside cb. He does good inside. even in the SB he kept cruz in check in most part. I think outside he is not good .

    Cole is a Spl teamer who comes in as a 4th CB. i think he is not good enough to put outside.i would i preferred slipping mccoutry there and putting chung/wilson as S at that point.
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    Based on his actions in the second half it seems like he'll be fine for the playoffs. I don't really care if we see him the next two weeks. We are one CB (for depth) short; as much as McCourtey has solidifed the Safety spot if this happens again I might put him out at CB. Regardless, we need to be healthy with the DBs in the playoffs and this is an issue for next year especially if Talib doesn't return.
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    2 points:

    1 - Ras-I should've been that guy you're looking for. The FO has tried, and will keep trying. I think we can agree that the FO did a fair job of bringing Talib in - remember how bad it was... imagine how bad it would've been last night if they hadn't. Credit to them where it's due.

    2 - You can debate where to put McCourty all you like, but we've seen Wilson and Chung as a safety pairing earlier in the year and it's ugly. 2 bad safeties on the field is a major handicap in pass defense. It's really just a choice between bad and worse.
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    Talib better come back. He's proven to very effective in coverage and the best thing we have in the secondary. McCourty is playing well at Safety. I love him there.

    Arrington has to be in the slot because he absolutely SUCKS on the outside. As soon as Dennard went down, I saw that coming. Dennard is good and I'm glad we got him as a rookie as a steal. We need to draft more like him.

    I don't really care for Chung any longer. Either way, our defense still showed signs of getting better last night. For the most part, they kept us in the game early when it could've been ugly and managed to get 3 consecutive 3-and-outs allowing Brady and co. to score 4 times straight. We'll be there for the playoffs, on the road or not.

    God I miss Gronk.
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    From what i saw the 49ers plan was to go after dennard. i am confused when you claim that as soon as Dennard went down the problem started.

    Kap was chucking it to dennard side even before that , including the TD to moss and when they moved Talib to cover moss they went to carbtree.
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    How sad is it that we're depending on a 7th round rookie to fix the starting CB spot?
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    He really was rated alot higher but dropped in the draft due to character issues I believe. But you knew that.

    He was a steal !! :D
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    Did the Pats actually move Talib? It seemed like the 49ers started to line up Crabtree on Arrington's side to me. I forget who was covering Crabtree on his 1st TD, but it did feel like he became a big part of the 49ers game after Dennard left the game. All of this could be skewed by the missed tackle on the last TD that looked like a play that Dennard would make.
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    It's too bad the coaching staff didn't.

    I don't want to see another 7-man blitz putting a JAG 1-on-1 with a #1 receiver ever again. Fricking heck.
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    True, they were going after him as Talib is the more seasoned CB and better at the moment but either way, Dennard plays much better than Arrington. Yes, Dennard let up some big plays but he also made a few good play as well, specifically the "almost" interception but nonetheless, a good breakup for a potential TD.

    Arrington.... never. That would've been a PI each time.
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    You are right they moved Moss over and let crabtree work on dennard.
    kyle was also the corner when they shut them down 4 times in a row. All it takes is 1 bad play to show. so i feel unfair to say , you played in 4 drives where we shut them good but because of the one play where you jumped a slant we are going to kill you. what if kap threw a slant and kyle jumping leads to a pick 6.
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    I understand your point and as I mentioned in another thread, I think the defense all around played okay and really kept the game close for the most part. But its just we're so used to seeing this with Arrington. I understand a big play here and there, it happens to everyone but I huge whif like that for a TD in that particular moment.... classic Arrington play.
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    Fair enough. For the record I like Arrington on this team, but I get uneasy when he plays outside.
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    He was a projected second round selection who dropped like a stone when he decided to take on four police officers at a Lincoln, NE bar the Saturday night/Sunday morning before the NFL draft. Lucky for the Patriots he decided to fight some cops when he did.

    I was very down on Dennard when they selected him, but I like the combination of Talib and Dennard at the corners a lot with Arrington in the slot, and McCourty and Gregory at Safety. This is a young, athletic crew that just came together as a unit three weeks ago. The Jags/Dolphins provide two more games for these guys to mesh as a unit before showtime begins.
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    I've got no problem with the kid. I was advocating keeping him as a starter once Talib came on board.

    I was just talking about the overall state of affairs in the secondary.
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    What exactly is sad about it?

    The NFL is full of late round and UDFA CBs who are starting, and often starring. Green Bay's secondary got a big boost from the return of former UDFA CB Sam Shieds. Their other starting CB, Tramon Williams, is also a former UDFA. Former 7th round pick Cortland Finnegan got $50M this offseason, as did former 5th round pick Brandon Carr, while former 6th round pick Jason McCourty got $43M (all 5 year deals).

    Dennard was never a 7th round talent. We got him cheap. He's still a rookie and has a learning curve, but it's not particularly outside the NFL norm that we're depending on him to fix one of our starting CB spots.

    Sad would be if we weren't depending on him to fix it, and were sticking with the status quo. Or if we didn't have him as an option.
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    doesn't anyone else thing that McCourty at corner and TWilson or PChung at Safety is LESS worse than Arrington at corner and McCourty remaining at safety?

    This should be considered next time Dennard can't suit up.
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    Since 2008, the team has drafted

    Wilhite (4)
    Wheatley (2)
    McCourty (2)
    Dowling (2)
    Butler (2)

    all well above Mr. Denard. In addition, there have been all the FA signings. Not one of them is currently a starting CB for the team. Instead, what we've got is a guy who was a possible cut for the Buccaneers and a 7th round pick manning the spots.

    That's sad.
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    My late grandma, climbing out of the grave would have been better at corner than that jacka55 Arrington.
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    Now THAT I agree with 100% (though McCourty was a 1, and he's a terrif DB IMHO, just not his best as a press-man CB). You might add a 1st round safety (obviously predating your 2008 cutoff, but not by much) and soon a high 2nd round safety, which has indirectly impacted the CB situation.
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    Silly notion, particularly considering the events of the past few days...
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