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  1. BigMike

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    Rams eye TBC
    The Rams have made outside linebacker/defensive end Tully Banta-Cain an early priority, as they are hosting him on a free-agent visit today in St. Louis.

    "The jet was smoking first thing this morning," said James Sims, Banta-Cain's agent.

    Sims said Banta-Cain is intrigued by the Rams.

    "They would bring out the best in Tully and allow him to do what he does best, use his versatility as a 4-3 end, or as a 3-4 linebacker," he said. "They like his versatility and they pose a great opportunity for him, which is very important to Tully in addition to a potential financial package. He’s been biding his time in New England.”

    Sims added that Banta-Cain has also received interest from the Steelers, Dolphins and 49ers, among others. He said Banta-Cain hasn't ruled out a return to the Patriots.

    Posted By: mreiss | Time: 03:47:55 PM | Link
     
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    Big time $$$$$ are going to be thrown around.
     
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    if you are gone dont forget your ring on the way out.
     
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    :agree:

    That was one of the best dumb ass stories ever.
     
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    Thats fine, I think he pretty much maxed out on his development here. There isn't much room in this defense for a one-dimensional pass rusher. Wow, that sounded harsh. Well, I wish him the best of luck, as long he doesn't go to a hated rival.
     
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    I believe this story is mostly salesmanship on the part of the agent. While the Rams may have some interest in TBC, what I hear is an agent trying to get more money from the Patriots. So I wouldn't say goodbye quite yet...
     
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    TBC is really the perfect fit for the Rams defense, a situational pass rusher with no run game whatsoever.
     
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    I keep scratching my head over where people get the one dimensional stuff or it's friend, the can't stop the run stuff. It isn't there on tape. He may never play at the same level as Vrabel, but he was just about Colvin's speed from what I saw on tape.
     
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    he is more of a pass rush specialist but I dont think he was as bad at the run as others would like to think. and those that point to his benching in indy, I think that had more to do with wanting Alexander on the field and vrabel on the outside than benching tully.
     
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    This was posted earlier this am:

    http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/default.asp?item=513127

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    From the thread title, I thought he was leaving. When in fact, he's still exploring. SF may be the frontrunner, as he is from CA. Otherwise $$$ speaks louder -- so he could go anywhere.
     
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    Here is the other side to the "Patriots use players for their rookie contracts and then don't want to pay them".

    How about "They coach up marginal late rounders and then they leave for the big bucks."
     
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    Good. He's not very good anyway. All he can do is rush up field and have OT's push him to the ground. Very one-dimensional.
     
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    Someone put a fantastic post up here a few weeks ago that showed the average yards per rush given up per game by the Patriots defense over the year. When Seau was in there, the averages were somewhere around the 3.5 range. Then when Seau went down and Tully came in, they shot up quite a bit, to around 4.5 yards per carry. Now, part of this could have been due to the re-shuffling (Vrabel going inside), but clearly Tully's presence had a negative impact.

    Besides the stats, just watching the games, I saw Tully all over the place on obvious passing downs, and otherwise he was pretty much invisible. The guy is a pretty good edge rusher, but thats about it.
     
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    Well, it doesn't say much for him if, in the heat of battle in the AFC CG his coaches elected to sit him in favor of Eric Alexander, who no one is going to confuse with the second coming of Dick Butkus.

    TBC is little more than a situational linebacker, and as another poster pointed out, appears to have maxed out in terms of developing, at least insofar as the Patriots are concerned.

    Who knows, tho? Maybe a change of scene will allow him to bloom in ways we can't see.

    In any event, we have bigger fish to fry.
     
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    I like that. Guys like Banta-Cain, Branch, Givens, etc., clearly benefitted from playing on the Pats. I'm glad for them, but to claim that the Patriots take advantage of all their players, like they are some kind of slave labor, is often off the mark, IMO.
     
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    No big loss. Let the Pierre Woods era begin! I'm kidding...sort of.
     
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    I knew those numbers. and I am not saying he is good in run support just saying he is better than a lot of people on here wanna give him credit for. Plus seau was playing like the seau of old for us and to expect tully to replace that would have been foolish. Seau went down half way thru the year if tully was a bad as everyone says than how did we make it as far as we did.

    That being said no biggie if he goes elsewhere and I think we can do much better than him. Peire woods could even be better
     
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    "Say Goodbye to Tully Banta Cain...???"

    Was ANYONE here expecting him to be re-signed?
     
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    Well we seem to agree on the bottom line, so no point arguing semantics. ;)
     
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    typical agent-speak
     
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