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New England Patriots Blog - Lack of pressure hurts defense - ESPN Boston
Re: Reiss:Lack of pressure hurts defense
agreed. Reiss is usually on the button with these things.
Re: Reiss:Lack of pressure hurts defense
Investigative journalism right there. However, some people will still say that this loss is squarely on Brady, and Brady alone.
Right now will say 50-50... the problem I have is that we were so comfortable with #12 being superman for quite a while now, when he is not very bummed out...
He would have been bailed out yesterday though if the defense didn't allow the Denver offense to go for 424 yards.
Not convinced that Brady and the O calls should not take half of the blame.. the pats had the ball 11 times, 4 of those times they were 3 and out... time of possession was 36.5 to 28.5 in favor of the Broncos... the Bronco's had 14 more plays.. it goes on and on.. we are used to the O moving the chains and eating up the time of possession, did not happen yesterday.
The D bent too much, but our O can share the blame...
Can someone please explain to me how you get pressure on a 5 yard out pattern???? Because that's all the Broncos were throwing yesterday (other than the screens, where pressure doesn't help and the quick clear out play to Scheffler). Please help me out here. The lack of pressure is a red herring. There's no way you can get pressure on a QB throwing those types of patterns. This is what the Patriots used to do to the Steelers to nullify the pass rush - spread out the defense and throw short passes.
Yards aren't points. Good try though. The Pats defense allowed 17 points in regulation.
I agree it sounds good, just another euphanism...
I think this is a really good point. It is too bad Brady do the same thing or fashion the same kind of game plan against the Broncos..
I disagree w/ Reiss on this one. We were getting some pressure on Orton but they adjusted to it and started calling those quick-outs. They ate us alive with the short passing game. Lack of pass rush? Well I guess you could always use more pass rush but that wasn't the main reason we lost that game. We were out-coached, particularly in the play calling.
Here's my guess: you have to play the CBs closer to the LOS. When you do that you are vulnerable to a double move so you bring the safeties up or use LBs more in coverage (or both). I don't think we have enough LBs w/ good coverage skills so I think Pees/BB are willing to take the short yardage stuff rather than risk giving up big plays.
I remember several plays where DBs like Wilhite and McGowan were blitzing through untouched and Orton was just rolling out and hitting 10-yard outs.
i respect all the opinions about playing the CB's playing closer to the LOS. but does anyone think that it has slipped from BB's mind ? is he really that rigid ? there must be a reason he doesnt do it anymore.
Correction: The Broncos offense only scored 17 points in regulation after shooting themselves in the foot a few times. Oh, and in overtime (you know... when it mattered most?), yards did in fact translate into points as Kyle Orton drove the team 80 yards for a game winning FG. Good try though.
You love going nuts after losses huh. Again. Tom Brady hits a wide open Moss and Welker and we're talking about yet again how the defense saved the O's ass. Not doing jack **** for 3 freaking quarters is a goddamn joke. The offense, Brady inparticular, needs to pull its head out of its ass.
First, I think there will be plenty of people who can tell you that I'm one of the most level headed people on this forum after a loss. You want proof?
Second, I would not be one of those people. Anybody who isn't blind could see that Denver shot itself in the foot plenty of times. 17 points or not, two 90 yard drives and an 80 yard drive to end the game are piss poor and a better offense would definitely capitalize on all the opportunities we afforded the Broncos.
Third, I've never said that the offense played great. I've said time and time again that the offense left 7-14 points out on the field. However, the biggest catalyst for the loss is definitely the defense.
The defense isn't the issue this season, it's not like they are giving up 30 points per game.
I have been begging BB to draft a pass rush demon for the past three years. We deserately need someone to come in on third and long and change the way opposing offenses pass block.
We don't have that type pass rusher on our team.
What I think Reiss is trying to say is that without a decent pass rush, the secondary has to play a soft zone defense, which is vulnerable underneath.
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