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    anyone we want at 13?

    Ravens | Team would like to acquire more picks
    Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:48:07 -0700

    Jamison Hensley, of the Baltimore Sun, reports the Balitmore Ravens are clearly prepared to move down from the 13th spot in the first round of the NFL Draft to acquire more picks. Director of college scouting Eric DeCosta did little to hide his displeasure over the Ravens having two picks on the first day of a deep draft. "I wish I had six," he said. If the Ravens drop from the 13th pick to somewhere in the low 20s, they probably would receive an additional third-round pick. General manager Ozzie Newsome even said the Ravens could be enticed to give up the No. 13 pick before they are on the clock. According to a league source, the Ravens' two most coveted players are Texas DB Michael Huff and Texas QB Vince Young, but neither is expected to slip past the top 10. Unlike any other draft, this one will be unusual for the Ravens because they must pick immediately after the Cleveland Browns and their general manager Phil Savage, who ran the Ravens' college scouting department for nine years. "I would love nothing better than to jump up over (Savage) and pick his pocket," DeCosta said.
     
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    That's exactly where I would think we would need to be if we covet Chad Jackson.
     
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    Not a chance. When BB mentioned, in his media statement, about there being so many players with one year or half a year of productivity... he was talking about players like Stovall and Jackson who have one good year to show for their careers. That's a big minus in Foxboro.

    Over on the draft board, I posted a mock where I had the Pats trading up to the #13 spot for a LB. Ostensibly, this could be for Chad Greenway or Manny Lawson, but I had the picking... drumroll, please... Bobby Carpenter. It was not a popular idea.

    But with the Browns looking to fill needs for a 3-4 D at #12, we'll be looking at leftovers at #13. We cant afford to wait for the Fins to take a LB at #16, the Eagles may be looking LB at #14, and both Minnesota and Dallas could be looking LB at #17 and #18. #21 feels too low to get the LB of our choice. Dallas, Cleveland and Miami, at least, will have the same valuation criteria for their LBs. Sure, there will be LBs available at #21, but will they project into our system-- or are the 3-4 LBs (guys like Greenway, Carpenter, Lawson, Wimbley) be off the board by that time?
     
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    The Ravens are looking for more draft picks, because we always get them all!
     
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    Great, you got rook started on wasting our picks again :mad: :D
     
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    Here is my thought and I mentioned this in another post.. It seems like the Front offices with a good track record are looking to move back and acquire extra picks (denver being the other). That being said, I think one thing should be recongized when Baltimore is looking to move back. This draft is deep and the solid foundation front offices want to restock their teams. PATS SHOULD HOLD STRONG AND NOT MOVE UP!

    Just a little mans opinion at 11:08pm on Thursday night :p
     
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    I have Baltimore in the interactive mock. They will be pounding sand until they improve their O-line.:D
     
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    If we could move up to #13 it would be to get Huff.......... IMHO
     
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    Thats the issue, thats the players that the Ravens want, (I don't see why as they already have the best secondary in the league, and have much bigger needs (O-Line, LB's, RB, QB, WR). We could try to make a draft day trade for the pick if we see Huff is falling, and the Ravens think they want to grab Eric Winston/ Maroney/ Williams at 21, but if they see Huff dropping, they'll probably want to stay put. We could trade for the pick now, and HOPE Huff falls, but if he doesn't, who's worth it at 13? NOONE. That's why the Ravens want to trade out.

    Let's stay put at 21, and take Cromartie, and trade up for whichever DE/ OLB hybrid falls to the top of the second, if none fall, stay put and take Darryl Tapp or Abdul Hodge.
     
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    Heres a scenario where Huff could fall....

    Bush
    Williams
    Leinart
    Young
    Hawk
    Davis
    Ferguson
    Ngata
    Justice
    Cutler
    Bunkley
    Wimbley

    it's not exactly probably....but you never know
     
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    No thanks on a round one WR. If we trade UP to take Chad Jackson I'll crap myself.
     
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    I think this is because most people think Carpenter will be available at #21. So trading up for him would stink.
     
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    It would be a desperate act of overpaying out of fear . . . not something Belichick will do in this lifetime.
     
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    It takes 2 to tango. We have lots of mid and low picks.

    We have less needs that Baltimore, but we need more premier players.

    At LB, our backups are not taking over. We need some talent that can be ready in less than 3 years.

    At DB, we have some fine young backs, but not a premier talent for the future.

    We have plenty of picks for young WR, RBs backup DL and OL, (unless we feel one top talent would make a difference here).

    1 or 2 top players will go a long way here. In Baltimore, that's not the case.
     
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    It is an interesting observation that you make about no LB left that fits at 21.

    I think that the Browns are less likely to pick a LB now that willie is there.

    Philly needs a WR.

    Miami has no two and may have no three because of Culpeppr Harrington deals. IMO, Miami must be desperate for a LOT. LJ Shelton has failed with two teams, and there is no one else on Saban's roster. Why get a QB only to see him squashed like a bug?

    Dallas has solved its WR problem with TO, but they have secondary concerns and they did get Demarcus Ware last year. Larry Allen is drawing to a close on a great career, so Oline is a possibility there as well.

    Minnesota is said to want a LB but who knows, they have other needs as well.
     
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    Nobody has mentioned that this is a value trade. According to the trade chart we should make it.
    But I think we wait to do it until we see who is available.
    Picling in front of Cleveland would be good!
     
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    I was contemplating this last weekend. My reason for checking it out was because between picks 14 - 22 there is a run expected on WR and CB. So if Belichick really covets a player then #13 is where he needs to be.

    But we would have to give up 350 trade points to get there. Even trading 1's and giving a #2 and a #4 is not enough...so then it's a waste of time and it would hurt the team to do it.
     
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    Yes: Lawson. I'm convinced he won't be around by 21. I just learned he was a LONG JUMP champion in the ACC! As a former track team member, let me remind you that the average long jump specialist is built like a Carl Lewis --- not like a college defensive end! In my mind this makes Lawson a candidate for the best athlete in the draft. Cleveland will inhale him in the first round.
     
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    Might move up to get Huff IF he was available..or ?? No one else really..Lawson?? Huff I think would be it...and only if the picks given up would NOT seriously hurt.
     
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    Would you guys get mad if we traded up (not necessarily to Baltimores 13) for Cromartie?
     
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