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  1. SamBam39

    SamBam39 Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    I think we all know the Pats, Colts, and Chargers are the top contenders, but better not sleep on the Broncos after they acquired Dre Bly and Travis Henry, and the Ravens after they acquired Willis McGaheee !! Here's how I see the ranking of the AFC's top contenders:

    1)Patriots - filled all their holes and reloaded, plus still have 2 first rounders. They almost won it all last year, so look out.
    2)Colts - defending champs, they're the best until they're beaten.
    3)Chargers - you know they will be a very very determined team this year, and they have toms of talent.
    4)Broncos - if Jay Payton comes of age, this team could explode. Bly and Henry are serious upgrades to an already terrific team.
    5)Ravens - Don't look now, but that defense is getting an offense. MArk Clayton really developed last year, McNAir will be in his second year with the team, and they replaced the plodding Lewis with the explosive McGahee. Their defense is historic, so don't just assume they aren't that good.
    6)Bengals - still gotta prove they can play tough D.
    7)Jets - Thomas Jones was a GREAT pickup and they will get better through the draft as well. Mangini will keep them playing tough, smart, and disciplined.
    8)Chiefs - with Huard at QB they will be better, and with Edwards and HArris added at LB they will defend better. Could become really tough if they ever get some WR's.
    9)Steelers - can they win without Bettis, Porter, and Cowher ?? They still have Roethislberger, Ward, Parker, and a tough D, but they'll have to prove they can still hang with the big boys with a new coach.
    10) Jaguars - tough D and good running game, they just can't seem to put it together in the passing game. If they ever do, they could arrive.
    ??Titans?? - not ready for prime time yet.
     
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    "2)Colts - defending champs, they're the best until they're beaten."

    but you rank them #2?

    also, they weren't the best team last year - just b/c they won doesn't make them the best.

    I think it's something like this:

    Chargers/Patriots
    Colts
    Ravens/Broncos/Bengals
     
  3. carolinatony

    carolinatony In the Starting Line-Up

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    Chargers/indy/broncos
    ravens/steelers/bengals
    ...
    the rest



    Media picks
    Indy
    Jetsters
    chargers
    pats
     
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    I think there will be turmoil with the Chargers and would rank them #4 or lower. They had a HUGE turnover in the their coaching. Head coach and a bunch of assistants are gone.
     
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    I think that's about right going into the year. I'd rank the Colts number 1. They won it last year and they deserve to be ranked #1. I think the Pats are stronger, at least on paper. IMO, the Chargers are a complete enigma going into next year; perhaps the most talented team in the NFL but how will the radical coaching transition tranlate to on field play? I'd also slip the Dolphins in at around 8. Their OL is not good and things are completely unsettled at QB but they have a defense that's among the very best in the league.
     
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    Hard to do this in March but as of right now.

    Pats

    Broncos - some very good offseason moves so far - Cutler really came on at the end of last season. Bly if he doesn't get traded will make that one of the best defensive secondary's in the league. They get to play KC and Oakland twice and will most likely split with SD.

    Colts - they have been stagnet so far and that defense hasn't gotten better with the defections. Not sure if June has signed anywhere but he most likely will leave. Harper doesn't appear to be to much of a loss because of Jackson who has played an awful lot over the past two seasons. But they will add productive rookies via the draft as usual. The offense will still be at the top of the league - but we all know how the season following a SB usually end for most teams. Did anyone honestly think last March the Steelers would end up as bad as they did?

    Chargers - Probably the most athletically talented team in the League. But showed their lack of discipline in the playoffs and the week leading up to the Pats game. They lost their entire coaching staff, hired the "Best" defensive coordinator in the league (who couldn't get a HC job) as their LB coach and hired a retread to run the defense. Not to mention Norv Turner is their coach. They will have to prove that they weren't a one year wonder and that they can win with Norv and his new staff or inspite of them. Just not sold on them having a 13+ win season. I think they finish in the 10-6/11-5 range.

    The Ravens and Steelers will fight for the North. The Jets, Jags, Chiefs and a sleeper will vie for the WC with the 2nd place team from the West and North.

    But this is March a lot can and will change between now and Kickoff weekend.
     
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    I had the same thought on ranking "the best until they're beaten" #2.

    But then you employ identical double think saying "just b/c they won doesn't make them the best."

    Hello? They won. The object is to win it all. Who did it better? That makes them... what, class?

    PFnV
     
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    Jay Payton came of age years ago, and it did nothing for the broncos.
     
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    No chance the Jets are picked ahead of the Pats by the majority of the media.

    The Chargers are really good, but they have a bad coach. I don't know how to rank them.

    Probably 1-Pats, 2-Bolts, 3-Colts, 4-Denver

    and Jay Payton is a bad outfielder.
     
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    ok ok - obviously I meant jay cutler, not payton.

    regarding the colts, they were the best last year and I'm trying to give them their fair respect and due, but if I'm ranking tgeams for the new year, I like the pats chances better with all the moves that have happened to each team.

    thats all.

    don't you think the pats will be better?
     
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    I've noticed that everyone on this board thinks more highly of the Broncos than everyone else in the NFL does. I wonder why that is? ;) Just kidding.

    Anyway, I do think you guys have the Broncos too high. A team with an unproven QB shouldn't be ranked #3 in the AFC IMO. I'd put the Ravens definitely over them. And I would the Bengals too as. So I'd rank the Broncs fifth right now in the AFC.

    The rest of the list is good. It's amazing, the Jaguars probably have a better roster than any team in the NFC, and they're ranked 10th in these AFC rankings! I would possibly move them a little higher and move the Jets down a little because the Jags have more talent. I know talent isn't everything, but the Jags did kick the crap out of them last year.
     
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    COLTS - defending champs
    PATS - only missing more depth at LB & defensive backfield
    Chaagiz - young, talented & no longer playing Martyball in the playoffs
    Denvah - dangerous from the Pats perspective + added quality at RB & DB
    Next echelon...
    Baltmore
    Cincy
    Jagwads
    Pesky AFCE teams Jets & Maimi excepting Buffalo
     
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    One thing I forgot to add on my post about Denver. This is a team that lost to the 49ers with a playoff birth on the line at home. Yeah they've had a pretty good offseason and all, but I don't think it's enough to have them in the 3rd spot considering what they did last year.
     
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    No - the better team doesn't win 100% of the time. Just b/c the Colts won the SB last year doesn't mean they were the best team team. Upsets happen.

    this may be blasphemy to most on this board, but here is a news flash: the Patriots were not the best NFL team in 2001. if they play the Rams 100 times, they lose far more than 50% of the time. the fact that they won the 1 time they played in the SB doesn't make them the best team in the league. it's called variance.
     
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    Broncos are getting far too little love on this board, and others. They're going to be GOOOOOOOD.
     
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    The Broncos made some major upgrades and the Ravers look to be adding offense-the last thing we want them to do.It's close between the Ravens and Chargers but the Ravens really seem to be addressing need,whereas the Chargers seemed more reactive in their moves. Hard to know if their coaching changes (and new unis lol) will give them a large edge.
    The Jets just got better and they're always pesky,especially under Mangini.
    Despite their SB win(or maybe because of it),I listed the Colts "last" at this point. That could change given the fact they've made so many cuts assumedly in preparation for addressing mid-season needs.
     
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    You're right on both counts. Winning a SB takes more than just being the best team,as we've discovered. You need some breaks along the way too.
    The 01 team was special,though not necessarily the "best" team at the time. But they found a way to win and I think the Pats are among the best at that. The 04 team was just dominant.
     
  19. tuckeverlasting

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    i keep reading how the chargers have a lot of talent and thus are one of the favorites next year. well. picking in the top five every year you should be able to collect some talent. what i saw was an undisciplined team under the disciplinarian schottenheimer. what's that team going to look like under the player friendly and unorganized turner ? that team of hoodlums is going to be allowed to run amuck.
     
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    if Marlon Mcree decides to fall down, the Chargers win and host the AFC championship game, and people wouldn't be saying stuff like this.

    lots of guys on this board are wayyyyy to results oriented.
     
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