Pats cut 14 incl. Bryant and Gutierrez; 2 (Ruud, K. Smith to IR); Ross to R/NFI

[Patjew]

Re: reiss breahdown of positions and thoughts...

You see a Manning as a fit in NE? Too much MSG again!

Nah, I don't see the fit at all and would never want him in NE. But some others seemed to see it last week.

 

[DaBruinz]

Re: Patriots make cuts

Yes, change is good but 8 O Linemen? it is not like they have played like gang busters. 8 is the typical amount dressed for a game, not much of margin for error. The backup QB sucks, backup LBs are questionable, secondary is interesting, Merriweather must be healthy and slotted in to play in nickle situations.

Year in and year out you slam the Pats coaching staff claiming it sucks and that the team is horrible. Year in and year out, you are proven wrong. Weren't you one of the ones who was slamming the Pats draft?

This isn't the 1st time they've gone with 8 O-linemen. They started off 2005 with only 8 and it wasn't until late in the season when they signed Ross Tucker that they had a 9th. They also spent a good portion of 2006 with only 8 on the roster with Mruczkowski going on and off the roster.

The Pats back-up QB is Cassel, who is no worse than Rohan Davey was.

The back-up LBers clearly proved to BB that they were better than a veteran in Hobson. And, as others have said, Seau's locker is set-up so there is a good chance he'll be back. And that improves the LB depth even more.

Why MUST Meriweather be slotted to play in Nickel situations? What's to say that its not Lynch, J. Sanders, or L. Sanders?

Thank you for posting the list of cut and potential matches in the other thread, that was useful and I appreciate it.

Call me crazy but I would feel better if they signed Harrington, Anderson, Law, Colvin and Seau. But too many signings makes it hard to extend Wilfork, which is also a priority.

How many veteran FAs made the team? Aiken, Sanders, Jordan, Lynch.. I guess the batted about 50/50 which will get you into the hall of fame.

Why would you feel good about Harrington? I wouldn't. And I am pretty sure that Colvin was cut by the Texans because he's wasn't capable of playing up to the level he has played before.

I'd love to see the Pats bring in all three. They could do it also. And still have money left to give Wilfork an extension, though one doesn't need to be done before the spring.

 

[JoePats]

I haven't gone through this whole thread so forgive me if someone already posted this (which someone probably did).

The thing that surprises me with the Bryant thing, he got cut. OK. Fine. But he played with the 1s the entire preseason. If BB thought there was a chance he cut Bryant (there must've been some thought along those lines), why didn't he give someone else a chance to play with the 1s? Perhaps that just means he has someone else in mind to bring in here.

 

[NEPatriot]

What is so special about Cassel? Somebody needs to ask BB on Monday on WEEI show. It's a big surprising!

 

[Mark Morse]

Wow. So who here called the Pats keeping all of Ventrone, Slater, and Jones?

Nobody, I presume.

And Jackson too! I'm shocked.

Three TE; 8 OL with only 7 healthy

 

[Jimke]

Re: Patriots make cuts

What don't you get? Most people believe there are more changes.

1) Faulk will be back after the KC game
2) Neal will be eligible to return after the Denver game
3) I've heard differing reports on Ross. I've heard Reserve/ NFI and I've heard Reserve/PUP. If its NFI, I believe he can come back as soon as he passes a physical. If its PUP, its after the Denver game.
4) The Pats haven't started a season under Belichick with fewer than 4 OTs. I don't see this one being one either. I also don't see them carrying 3 C/Gs behind Koppen going into game one against KC. I, like others, are hoping for Willie Anderson.
5) CB seems to be a weak area. I wouldn't be surprised to see them add one and cut CJ Jones. I think going with 6 WRs is alot, but 8 is nearly unheard of.

Forum members have to wait until the dust settles. I believe that the

roster will be tweaked before the first game. The last couple of players

on the roster shouldn't feel secure just yet.

 

[DaBruinz]

And Jackson too! I'm shocked.

Three TE; 8 OL with only 7 healthy

Why are you surprised about 3 TEs. That's a BB staple.

THe O-line, I'll give you. But there is still several days to make moves.

 

[unoriginal]

I haven't gone through this whole thread so forgive me if someone already posted this (which someone probably did).

The thing that surprises me with the Bryant thing, he got cut. OK. Fine. But he played with the 1s the entire preseason. If BB thought there was a chance he cut Bryant (there must've been some thought along those lines), why didn't he give someone else a chance to play with the 1s? Perhaps that just means he has someone else in mind to bring in here.

You're thinking like quarterbacks and Matt Cassel.

Think defensive backs and Duane Starks. Belichick will throw a cheap vet out there to see what happens while grooming the cheap rookie behind him until he's "ready." Apparently Wheatley is ready 8 weeks earlier than Hobbs was.

EDIT: Of course, it surprised me too, no lie.

 

[unoriginal]

BTW, I hope that NEM hasn't seen the roster... He'll be apoplectic that Hobbs is the #1 (good call there Signbabybrady)

And we almost got through this thread without referencing NEM.

 

[PatsFan37]

You're thinking like quarterbacks and Matt Cassel.

Think defensive backs and Duane Starks. Belichick will throw a cheap vet out there to see what happens while grooming the cheap rookie behind him until he's "ready." Apparently Wheatley is ready 8 weeks earlier than Hobbs was.

EDIT: Of course, it surprised me too, no lie.

I'm not sure that works for me. I understand that Belichick has in the past attacked a deficiency with 3 players: 1 vet and 2 rookies. The rookies learn together and the vet is insurance. But cutting a vet at the last moment when he's started all preseason and the position is weak? I was shocked.

I'm thinking the 4th preseason game must have had something to do with it. No run support. Blocked out by WRs. Sends a message, too.

 

[PatsFan37]

But there is still several days to make moves.

Forum members have to wait until the dust settles. I believe that the roster will be tweaked before the first game. The last couple of players on the roster shouldn't feel secure just yet.

I agree. Between the Faulk suspension, the waiver wire, and the remaining weaknesses at OL and maybe at corner, something's gotta give.

 

[signbabybrady]

When did Patsinsider say that?? a link or...just one of those remarks...??????? I didn't think so..

I just did a search and it wasn't NEINSIDER. It was the employee who was fired from PFW who wrote the article on his new gambling site that bashed the Patriots and Bruschi and Belichick. The pervailing thought was that it was Tom Cassale.

 

[Urgent]

Releasing Bryant and Webster is certainly a bit of a surprise.

Clearly this is a signficant weakness for the Patriots.

And for those hoping to pick up Ty Law, I'm not sure he could feed his family on what's left.

With all these players on PUP and IR (are there seven?) that chews up some significant cap space. I see the Pats with around $3mm in available space, maybe a bit less with the costs of the whatever signing bonuses lost.

 

[Urgent]

And I'm also disappointed to see Redd cut for Alexander (or Izzo).
Redd looks like he could develop.
I'm not sure anyone would pick up Alexander.
I sure hope Redd makes it to the practice squad.
It would be a real shame to lose him.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Releasing Bryant and Webster is certainly a bit of a surprise.

Clearly this is a signficant weakness for the Patriots.

And for those hoping to pick up Ty Law, I'm not sure he could feed his family on what's left.

With all these players on PUP and IR (are there seven?) that chews up some significant cap space. I see the Pats with around $3mm in available space, maybe a bit less with the costs of the whatever signing bonuses lost.

Miguel appears to have them at $5.7M including the cuts and IR.

http://www.patscap.com/

 

[BradyToMoss]

Miguel appears to have them at $5.7M including the cuts and IR.

http://www.patscap.com/

Let's set some of this aside for Big Willie Anderson.

 

[mgteich]

Re: Patriots make cuts

I also don't see what's hard to get.
A) CJ Jones is a returner until Faulk returns.
B) 3 TE's is what we have always carried.
C) Connolly is there until Belichick finds someone else. In any case 8 OL's in fine until Ross and Neal return.
D) We have four corners, the normal number.
E) In the end, Bryant and Hobson couldn't cut it. Law and Seau (and others) are out there. Ventrone is still vulnerable.

What don't you get? Most people believe there are more changes.

1) Faulk will be back after the KC game
2) Neal will be eligible to return after the Denver game
3) I've heard differing reports on Ross. I've heard Reserve/ NFI and I've heard Reserve/PUP. If its NFI, I believe he can come back as soon as he passes a physical. If its PUP, its after the Denver game.
4) The Pats haven't started a season under Belichick with fewer than 4 OTs. I don't see this one being one either. I also don't see them carrying 3 C/Gs behind Koppen going into game one against KC. I, like others, are hoping for Willie Anderson.
5) CB seems to be a weak area. I wouldn't be surprised to see them add one and cut CJ Jones. I think going with 6 WRs is alot, but 8 is nearly unheard of.

 

[Pats726]

I just did a search and it wasn't NEINSIDER. It was the employee who was fired from PFW who wrote the article on his new gambling site that bashed the Patriots and Bruschi and Belichick. The pervailing thought was that it was Tom Cassale.

so is this a new rant by Casale..a porno?? LOL whacked out TC...

 

[ALP]

from all those, i hope redd makes it to the PS the most...

 

[Fencer]

Re: Patriots make cuts

so who leaves when faulk comes back?

A WR, probably Jones.