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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.If anyone thinks the Patriots are now dead, they are dumber than a tree.R_T26 said:if anyone thinks you can replace all these starters w/ june 1st cuts, your naive.
BelichickFan said:Givens is the only one who can't be replaced IMO. And he could be replaced, we'll just have to get a little lucky.
I have no agenda. But he was 20th in the league in FG% last year. Admittedly in a tough place to kick but the probability that we can get a guy to go 18/25 and one of those two FG not being a game loser is pretty good.SoonerPatriot said:Add Vinatieri to the list. BBFan you have your agenda towards him for whatever reason, but the fact is he's a reliable kicker who may go to the HOF some day.
BelichickFan said:I have no agenda. But he was 20th in the league in FG% last year. Admittedly in a tough place to kick but the probability that we can get a guy to go 18/25 and one of those two FG not being a game loser is pretty good.
Of course I don't. But the odds of needing one aren't all that great. We'll see who/how the new guy is and what the money is spent on.SoonerPatriot said:At this point we're looking at a JAG or a rookie. If the game is on the line and it's raining or snowing and said FG kicker has to make a game winning kick, do you feel as comfortable with the JAG/Rookie as you did when AV was in that situation?
BelichickFan said:Of course I don't. But the odds of needing one aren't all that great. We'll see who/how the new guy is and what the money is spent on.
Even if we need a game winning playoff kick . . . the loss is the difference between the chance of Vinatieri making it minus the new guy making it, offset by whatever we add with the money difference.SoonerPatriot said:This team finds itself in a lot of close games. Games that are often decided by a point or two. In fact that was one of the big points the Pats doubters had about the Dynasty -- we didn't dominate anyone. The odds of needing him really don't matter until you actually need him. I wouldn't bet a nickel against this team not needing a clutch kick at some point next regular season or at some point in the playoffs if we make them.
Depends how much the guy we can spend the money on helps. Let's not forget the Denver game a couple of months ago . . . nice pressure kick, Adam.SoonerPatriot said:Couldn't care less about savings applied to whatvever position it's applied to. I care about winning titles and winning titles just got a little harder without AV.
Nobody will be cheering over 2 million in cap savings when/if Joe Blow misses a kick in the AFC title game and the season is over. They will be *****ing about Joe Blow.
BelichickFan said:Depends how much the guy we can spend the money on helps. Let's not forget the Denver game a couple of months ago . . . nice pressure kick, Adam.
BelichickFan said:And quit assuming the new guy will miss the kick
I'm not changing my screen name!Pats726 said:If anyone thinks the Patriots are now dead, they are dumber than a tree.
I'm thinking about changing mine to Bag_O_Hammers.Box_O_Rocks said:I'm not changing my screen name!