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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Depends how much he's slowed down since being drafted I guess. If he's the athlete he was when he was drafted (41.5" VJ compared to White's 32 and 10'5" BJ compared to White's 9'6" + better SS and 3 Cone times) they could have a good competition. White has done fairly well but not so well that there isn't room for competition at that spot.
I'm a little biased as I never liked the pick. Devonte Freeman went a pick or two before and I couldn't help but feel that the Patriots were going to take him and just took White as a reaction to that. Probably not how it went down but it just wasn't a strong pick. Thankfully White has been good in the passing game.White has shown outstanding receiving ability. Some acrobatic catches. But he is not a strong runner at all, not a dual threat.
I'm not trying to talk the guy up, it's probably 50-50 that he even makes the team but Brown did average 3.9 YPC last year behind a bad OL that resulted in Gordon averaging 3.5 and Woodhead averaging 3.4. The non Brown RB averaged 3.47.Donald Brown, last 2 years: 3.1 yards per carry, 8.1 yards per reception
James White, last 2 years: 3.0 yards per carry, 9.6 yards per reception
Not really that much of an improvement (if at all), but hey why not?
There are going to be plenty of quality RB's in this draft in day two and beyond that the Pats can grab without trading up for Henry. Watch some YouTube highlights of Jonathan Williams, Kenyan Drake (Henry's teammate at 'Bama who is a three down back), and C.J. Prosise. I like Henry as much as anyone, but I wouldn't want to see the team package together multiple picks to move up and get him when they still have needs at OL and DL, among others.
I've seen all those guys play, and while good, and I do like Prosise, they're not on the caliber of Elliott and Henry, in my mind anyway.
I certainly wouldn't mind trading up for a stud Heisman winning back. Haven't had one of those in the Brady/Belichick era.
I hear OJ will be getting out soon.
I know he didn't win the Heisman, but that Dillon guy was pretty good.
I've seen all those guys play, and while good, and I do like Prosise, they're not on the caliber of Elliott and Henry, in my mind anyway.
I certainly wouldn't mind trading up for a stud Heisman winning back. Haven't had one of those in the Brady/Belichick era.
So how much are you hypothetically giving up to go up and get Henry? Bear in mind, I don't think he slips into the second round.
Henry is my binky. Reminds me of Eddie George.I'm under the impression that he will slip into the early 2nd.
I'd be willing to give up one of our 2nds and a 4th for Henry. I think two 2nd is too much, but a 2nd + 4th I'd do.
I'm under the impression that he will slip into the early 2nd.
I'd be willing to give up one of our 2nds and a 4th for Henry. I think two 2nd is too much, but a 2nd + 4th I'd do.
Given our picks, we wouldn't be offering enough value. Let's say, for argument's sake, Henry falls to 42. That pick is worth 480 points. Our first pick in the 2nd round is worth 300. That means that, in order to have another team entertain it, the Pats would more than likely have to give up a 3rd as well. And that's just if Henry falls to 42. The value increases if he goes at the top of the 2nd. I, personally, wouldn't do it. I can see why people would. Just not me. Henry is a hell of a prospect but the Pats can still have some quality players at DL and OL available to them at 60 and 61 and there should be some good RB prospects available in the 3rd as well, if that's the direction they want to go.
Yeah don't get me wrong, if we went DL or OL and came away with Prosise, I wouldn't complain.
Henry is just my binkie. Really think he's a game changer, along with Elliott. I'm not getting my hopes though, I don't think we'll end up getting him anyways.
It is absolutely beyond me why Ohio State didn't make Elliot their workhorse last year. With the loss of Devin Smith, you would think that they would consistently put it in the hands of their primary playmaker instead of having the QB tuck the ball and try to take off as much as they did with Jones and Barrett. Their only loss, and subsequent missing of the college playoff, was a direct result of that. Not that I care too much. I don't particularly care for Ohio State. Just something that was worth pointing out.
Yeah I mean the guy was unstoppable and they went away from him and it cost them.
Even with that loss, I still thought Ohio State deserved to make the CFBPlayoffs over Oklahoma.
In the end, it's a primary example of why the CFB playoff field needs to be expanded.
This comment is an excellent example of why going to the playoff system was a mistake in the first place.
I prefer the college playoff. They just need to expand it to eight teams or more. That way you give some of the smaller schools (like how Boise used to be) that tend to get into the top ten a chance to get in there with some of the bigger schools from the SEC and ACC and let them actually play. Under the old system, those schools would frequently get ignored in the national championship picture because of the quality of their schedule. The college playoff is nice but it's too limited.
The college football playoff sucks, and by sucks, I mean it's bad enough that I no longer watch any college football, at all
Never ending expansion is a problem, not the solution, as we've seen with basketball