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    Given his recent struggles on the field, this could very well end what was left of his NFL career.

    Chris Simms arrested on driving while stoned charge - NYPOST.com
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    Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

    It doesn't say anything about him smoking while driving, all it describes is how he looked and the fact he had slurred speech. Where's the marijuana or the alcohol level? Chris must've admitted he'd been smoking before he drove and driving while impaired is indeed a crime.

    That's too bad tho.
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    Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

    In B4 Chris Simms flaming...
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    Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

    Big deal, he smoked a joint. I'm no pothead, but you can smoke a helluva lot of weed before even coming close to the same level of impaired-ness that drunken driving would entail.
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    Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

    inb4 huge marijuana debate.
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    Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

    Never, ever, talk to the police beyond providing necessary identification information, asking why you have been detained, and asking for your lawyer.
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    Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

    His car probably reeked of it. Why these guys can't wait until they get home to spark it up is beyond me.
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    I got out of a sure-fire DUI that way when I was way younger. They pulled me over (I won't go into why, but it wasn't because I was swerving all over the road... something had happened at the club I was at). Immediately, I pulled out my cigarettes (smoked back then), lit one up, gave him my I.D., made VERY limited eye contact, and only gave him one word "yes" or "no" answers. In the end, he said that he didn't detect alcohol on me and would let me go but if I HAD been drinking, to pull over and call a sober friend to pick me up. He walked back to his car and I pulled into he nearest parking lot, took the keys out of my car, and called a friend. The cop pulled into the parking lot across from me to watch me until my friend picked me up and took me home.

    That was the last time I drove with any level of alcohol in my system.
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    Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

    Since this was a checkpoint stop, the impaired judgment to volunteer to a police officer that you'd been smoking some joints before driving was impairment enough.
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    Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

    Oddly enough, his brother Matt Simms was suspended while at the University of Louisville for marijuana use, and he subsequently transferred out. :bricks:
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    Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

    I could not agree with you less.

    Dope drastically diminishes spatial and temporal judgement - precisely what you need to drive a car safely. Although it is impossible to get objective figures (not least because smoking drivers are often also drunk drivers) all the signs are that it is even worse than alcohol.
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    Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

    Chris could certainly had been our 2008 Starting Quarterback replacement if Cassel had not shown glimpses of talent,He was almost here but sent home.
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    Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

    Not sure where you get your information from, would like to know. I'm sure its my imagination that I'm a great driver when I'm stoned. Oh, there is no F'N WAY smoking impairs your driving more then drinking. Sounds like some personal bias.
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    Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

    I don't know, there is just something about driving and smoking that goes together for me. Then again, when I did it, it was usually on the back roads and I took precausions (windows down, air freshener, one dube, etc.)
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    Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

    How do you get busted on West Houston Street for smoking reefer? It's Greenwich Village, for crissakes. I betcha I can walk alongside him on the that sidewalk and spark up 1000 times over and never get a second glance.
    Musta been that white albino blonde hair. You can spot it a mile away.
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    Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

    Follow up:

    His attorney is claiming that he 'admitted' to cigarettes, not pot, and is trying to throw unnamed passengers under the bus:

    Chris Simms arrested for driving while stoned - NYPOST.com
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    Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

    Um, No. this is a pile of crap. There is plenty of figures on it. Look it up if you are going to make a claim.
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    Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

    I did that when I was 16. Since I've moved out on my own, I prefer to wait until I get home to spark up. Nothing wrong with what you're doing, it's just a different strokes sort of thing. By the way - I'm a worse driver when I'm ripped than when I've got a buzz going.
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    Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

    FWIW, most of the studies I've seen boil down to the idea that marijuana doesn't impair driving in anything like the way alcohol does. But there are some effects: pot-smoking drivers have impaired night vision, and compensate for their general stoned-ness by driving much more slowly than everybody else. IOW, it kind of turns you into the 90-year-old lady I saw inching her car into Davis Square today.

    Overall, the impairment hierarchy looks something like this:

    Texting > Way drunk > Talking on hand-held phone > Moderately drunk = Talking on hands-free phone > On pot > Fully alert.

    But West Houston Street can be a harrowing place to drive in any condition. Partially because the pedestrians are all drunk, high, texting and talking on cell phones.
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    Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

    I'll be real about it, after I spark up some spice while driving, that ****s get me simply gliding along on the road. Would I recomend driving real fast? No, your reaction time clearly is not the same. But smoking is perfect if your cool with cruising in the cruise lane, not trying to be a speed racer. Smoking while driving isn't as dangerous as alcohol IF your tolerance is high enough AND you don't smoke TOO much.

    LMAO at a marijuanna DUI. That's just asking to get laughed at in court. There's honestly no way to verify anyone was high while driving. His car smelt like it? He could have smoked 2 days before and his car could still be smellin.
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    Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

    I dunno. I crusie at about a steady 80 while smoking. Nothing too fast, moving quick enough to get where I need to and the perfect speed to be sure I maintain full control. No I'm not a seasoned toker or anything ;]
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    Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

    The very belief that you are not impaired is proof enough that you are WRONG! Don't drive under the influence of drugs and it doesn't matter whether its alchohol, or grass, or meth or opiates!

    The fellow who has had a bit at a party, recognizes his impairment, if he drives, does so very carefully, stays slow, and allows extra space to react with his impaired reflexes, isn't the fellow who thinks he is on top of the world, goes out smashed or stoned out of his gourd. The same fellow who than, wraps his car around another at 95 mph. I don't mind Darwinism in action, but its the innocent by-standers that you take with you, that I object to.

    You sir, are a danger to everyone around you even now, cold stone sober.
    :(
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    Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

    Hey Leave No Doubt, you liked my Pats-Phins MNF story the night John Lennon was shot? Thank you.
    Here's another story loosely related to this thread. It DOES have a Patriots connection. Okay, ready?
    I was at the old Pats stadium (a.k.a. Shaeffer, Sullivan, Foxboro) at the Grateful Dead show. The one on July 2nd, 1989. (Gee, look at that. Exactly 21 years ago today. Unintended, btw.) As a matter of fact, the only two times I've been to Foxboro were the two times The Dead played there. 1st time Dead & Dylan on the 4th of July in 1987, and this time, 2 years later.
    Anyway, (this ties into the debate on intoxication levels in relation to operating a motor vehicle. Bear with me, my writing is always long-winded) Anyway, I was pretty strung out back then at 22 years old. Hey, I was pretty much supposed to be anyway. I ran an independent record label in NYC for 17 years (between 21-38 years of age), so having a substance abuse problem is kinda a PREREQUISITE for being in the Rock & Roll business. So, I did about $100 of smack after the show and drove overnight to Ithaca, N.Y., fully intending to pick up my girlfriend and head to Rich Stadium to catch the Dead show the next night with her.
    BUT...
    As I pulled into Ithaca at SUNRISE the next morning, all blissing-out, with my brain producing whole lotta endorphins due to that load of smack I snorted the night before in Sullivan Stadium's gravel parking lot , I noticed a POLICE BLOCKADE up ahead on the interstate running into downtown Ithaca. So, I get all "Wtf is that all about?" and I stash my stash in the front pocket of my freaking purple overalls (lol). Hey, I WAS on a freaking Grateful Dead tour, after all. Purple? Yeah, freaking purple. And I must say, I was to die for in 'em. I was a Hippy-dippy, long-haired, articulate, yet a little bit lost, cutie-pie. The state troopers were checking each car for something. Hell if I knew what it was about. SO... when they finally got to me, they opened up my freaking door and threw me up on tha front hood... lol... purple overalls and all.
    Holy geebus! So, (with me so far? Glad you bothered to read down this far?) So, I go,"Holy crap. What in tha heck is this all about officer? I THINK YOU HAVE THE WRONG GUY! ima just comin' into town this fine morning to pick up ma chick to shuffle on off to Buffalo."
    Well, and you'll love this...
    The State trooper goes,"Nope. We got the right guy. Your father called us up last night and said you've STOLEN the extra car in the driveway to go on your Grateful Dead adventure. So, with your father's help, we estimated what time you were likely to be driving into town on this exact interstate road. Pretty astute calculation, huh? You're right on your E.T.A. (Well, at least I did THAT right.lol.) Anyway, You're being charged with VEHICULAR THEFT, a felony. Put your hands behind your back."
    AHHHH NOOOOO! (LOL! Ahh, memories. lol.)
    BUT, that's not all. Tha coppers gimme the requisite pat down and guess what? Yep, a whole lotta smack plops outta my cute little chest pocket in the purple overalls. AHHHHH NOOOOOOO!!!!! (Man, I'm on the floor right now, but I was so discouraged when that last part happened back then. My whole Sex, Drugs, and Rock And Roll 4th of July weekend was ruined!!! Bwah!!
    So, the cop goes,"Well, well, well, what do we have here?" I go,"I dunno exactly WHAT that is." And it's a GOOD thing I said that because back at the lab, the cops couldn't exactly pin down what the powder was because their drug testing was screwed up or something. I didn't get charged for it! Niiiiice.
    So, they put me in jail in Ithaca. I call my dad with a resounding,"WTF!!!! THANKS A LOT!" He (probably laughing inside) goes,"See what you get for borrowing the spare car without permission? I think I'll let you cool your heels in tha clink for a few days and I'll mosey (mosi? lol.) mosey on up there, drop the charges and we can have a nice weekend going to The Baseball Hall Of Fame, nearby up there in Cooperstown."
    Well, under normal circumstances I'd have been into go g to the Hall and all, BUTTTTT.... I had a hella smack habit and I was jonesing out tha wazooo. I wanted nuthin' to do with baseball. The only ball I wanted to see would prolly have been a SPEEDball.
    I tell my dad,"Oh, dad? Btw, there's ANOTHER charge you don't know about. Possession." He goes,"Oh yeah???? Of WHAT!!" (Gee, I guess THAT threw a wrench into the works of his nice father-son Baseball Hall weekend, huh?) I said,"Uhhhhh.... an "as of yet unidentified" opiate, well, that's what the cops are callin' it right now." A creative way for your father to find out his son is strung out on "you know". Hey, it was HIS doing, right? If he'd have not set this whole madness into motion with that dang phone call to tha freakig cops, we'd not be having this conversation. (how's that for addict thinking? lol.)
    ANYway, long-story-short, #1. he comes and bails me out. #2. We go to The Hall. I remember seeing George Brett's pine tar bat. That was pretty cool. #3. He drives me back down to NYC, my home since 1986. #4. I score some desperately needed smack to get rid of one of the most painful jones ever #5. It's now a week later and the Dead freaking kinda FOLLOWED me down to my city to welcome me back from jail. That was so nice of them. lol. #6. During the LAST song of the show, I FINALLY bump into my girlfriend on the field in the end zone! (prolly kinda near the spot Randy Moss skipped into, thus simultaneously breaking both the reception and touchdown pass records, 18 years later.) She blurts out,"Where THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN!!! Geebus!"
    #7. I go,"Darlin', It's a long story. And what a long, strange trip it's been."
    #8. I finally got my sex to go along with my drugs & Rock and Roll.
    #9. I felt exhausted and checked into my first rehab a few days later.

    So, what's the moral of the story, my patient fellow Pats fans????

    That yes indeed, one CAN drive for hours on end at high speeds on a really nice feeling load of opiates. That's what.

    Debate officially settled. rotf.

    (Hey, come to think of it, maybe Phil Simms called the police up and did the same thing to his son which my dad did to me! I betcha it was a "Phil Simms Intervention" on his delinquent footbawl chuckin' loon of a son!

    I slay myself.

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    Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

    Articles here indicated that while it clearly heightens the risk of accident, the effects aren't as drastic as alcohol. Cannabis was the most common illegal drug found in the blood of road accident victims though...
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    WOW! Dude, settle down. Actually, Patchick nailed it, as most logical people would agree.
    I don't smoke much nowadays, but when I do, I still enjoy myself. Stay thirsty my friend.
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    :rofl:
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    No doubt about it - it's your imagination all right. Oh, and you aren't really sexy when you're stoned, and you still dance like the Tin Man of OZ, too.
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    Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

    Back in the day, I could not drive at all after smoking. I could never figure out how much pressure to put on the gas pedal.
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    How do you feel about tractor trailer drivers driving while stoned?
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