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  1. Cramden

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    Just said on Sirius Radio that he's interested to see how the Giants play the Pats in the Super Bowl. He said in week 17 they had absolutely no pressure on them when the played the Pats tough, but now in the Super Bowl the pressure is huge.

    He also said he made his decision on his future and was going to speak with Jim Irsay right after he got off the phone with Sirius. I got the feeling he's done.
     
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    Irsay just said Dungy told him he was coming back. Read it somewhere this morning.

    But that was a very god point. All the pressure is on now.
     
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    Media circus will be all over Eli....and this is his first SB. Granted he's played well thus far, but now the 2 week break, the circus and all will be hard to deal with. Can easily throw you off the rhythm.
     
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    Really? He said he hadn't spoken with Irsay yet. He even went out of his way to praise Jim Caldwell, saying he was happy for him that he was going to get his chance as a head coach with the Colts. I guess that could be in 2009 and not 2008 when that chance comes.
     
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    The truth is - which Pats opponent over the past say 8-10 weeks has been playing with pressure? I would say none. That makes the 18-0 accomplishment even more incredible and impressive. Getting everyone's best game and still prevailing. The fact that the Giants played close in that last game puts expectations on them thereby increasing their pressure in the SB
     
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    The fact that the Giants are a NY team doubles the normal Super Bowl pressure.
     
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    If Dungy stays as a coach, why is that a story?

    It's not like he's old and he certainly didn't cover himself with glory with his "restathon" while the injured Giants showed how to make a playoff run.
     
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    Pressure is not a bad thing if it keeps you focused on a goal.
    If it keeps you from partying too much and avoiding all the silly SB distractions,then it is good.
    I said the same when people flung this pressure stuff at the Pats.
     
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    Irsay said this weekend he hadn't heard from Dungy, but had the feeling he would be back.
     
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    Don't know.

    First, that game was on three different TV networks. And they were the last hope to stop the cheating Patriots from going 16-0 and restore justice to the world.

    Second, even with their newfound success they are still viewed as the Washington Generals. If the Patriots lose, their will be riots in Boston. Giants lose Eli is still a hero.

    Third, the pressure on the Pats is greater for the SB then for game 16. If the Patriots had lost in the Meadowland and then went on to win the SB it would have disappointed fans, but it would not go down in history as the biggest choke of all times.

    Giants do have some more pressure, but not a lot more, and the Patriots have more pressure. That is why it is the SUPER bowl.
     
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    Nice try, No-ones buying it. They earned the right to be there and the NY fan base will expect nothing less then them to go down there and WIN, particularly cuz it was close last time we played.

    Everyone expected them to lay down last time and that they never had a chance, there WAS ZERO pressure on them last time.
     
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    Since when did Dungy get too stupid to analyze a football situation?

    My advice is to listen to what Patriots fans have to say about an opposing coach, and judge him thusly. If a fan says it, it must be true. If the coach still wins a SB then that was just luck (like the '01 Patriots giving up 400 yards to Kurt Warner but managing to win the game.)

    When will we learn to separate fact from fiction? Tony Dungy: SB ring coach. Fans: Opinionated and never got close to playing, let alone teaching or coaching or leading.
     
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    Well said, its just too easy to get off tracked right now. This is where exprience counts!
     
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    While Dungy's point about Week 17 might be valid, the Giants just won three playoff games on the road, and took the NFC Championship Game on the road, in Green Bay, in sub-zero weather. I don't think they are neophytes at handling pressure anymore.

    That said, the Giants' locker room celebration last night tells me that they may just be happy to have made it this far. I guess we'll see, soon enough.
     
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    That said, the Giants' locker room celebration last night tells me that they may just be happy to have made it this far. I guess we'll see, soon enough.

    Coughlin, Strahan and Toomer will keep everybody in check. No Cabo San Lucas.
     
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    My thought too.

    It's hard to find even a single angle of analysis
    that might favor the Jints.
     
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    Agreed on both points.

    SJ, what's the mood in Jets land? A Pats-Giants SB has to be the worst-case scenario for Jets management, curious how much the fans care.
     
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    Right about that. Even before this, the typical Monday morning back page of the NY Post during football season is: "GIANTS WIN! -- Jets Squeak One Out". I'm not sure this ownership recognizes that. The fanbase sure does.

    For the Jets fan, it's tragedy at all turns. Younger Jets fans burn white-hot about the Patriots, and migrate toward the Giants. Strongly.

    Older Jets fans - myself included - can't, don't, and won't ever root for the Giants, and, truthfully, have always resented Don Shula and the Dawlpfinz ten times more than we resent the Patriots. We compartmentalize things so that we're essentially rooting for competitive football and good commercials - followed by Superman flying around the earth a dozen times fast to turn back time and make it all go away.

    I do have common ground with Patriots fans on one point, though. And, I would hope that you all would push for this in a HUGE way. I suggest a sticky to remind everyone. Write to Ron Borges and coax him into spending just a little extra time on his Andre Tippett HOF nomination speech. Andre's a decent guy, and deserves it.
     
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    Or instead of spending some extra time he could copy someone else's.
     
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    :)

    No question, the Giants picked a great time to get hot. With every other pro sports franchise in the NY area on the downside, the Giants have a great chance to win the hearts of a generation of little fans. Ka-ching!
     
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