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  1. mgteich

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    How much does either team want to win this week? isn't a week to rest all the injured?
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    I have no idea how Houston will approach their game. I'd personally rest up.

    NE should absolutely want to win and get the #1 seed. I'd want to rest Light/Mankins/BJGE though. Chung/Spikes/Vollmer if possible would be nice to get them up to game speed, if rest is crucial to their recovery though let them get the extra 3 weeks to heal up.
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    We need that first seed. And especially with the season's worst first half yesterday, I think BB goes all in vs. Buffalo. If we build a big lead through the third quarter that might be occasion for resting people.

    It would seem to make sense for Houston to rest people.
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    To me it's really two entirely different situations.


    The Pats have a bye; Houston does not. The Pats resting players would be essentially giving them two weeks off and potentially getting them rusty and out of synch. The Texans resting players would only be giving them one week off ... though on the other hand, they may want to give Yates a few more game reps.


    A Pats win clinches home field advantage for the AFCCG should the Pats get that far. A Houston win doesn't change anything for the Texans, other than perhaps a little bit more confidence going into the post-season.
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    Don't know about Houston, but home field through out the playoffs for us could not hurt.

    Honestly I just hope to see Chung and Spikes get some playing time againts the Bills. Just to knock some rust off..
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    If Houston loses, TENN will be in the playoffs. Houston will likely beat them (or Cinci) the next week in Houston. HOU will then go on to play the #2 seed.

    Just how hard should we try to play PITT and BALT at home instead of HOU at home and BALT away?
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    I too would like to see Spikes and Chung just to know that they are able to play.

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    Resting Welkah and Branch would be fine with me. But I really want to see Chung and Spikes get some reps. Those are 2 guys I really think we need to make a run in the play-offs. Who I would be a little worried about with no reps before the playoffs..
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    If Houston loses next week then they go into the playoffs with a three-game losing streak. If that is the case I would not be the least bit surprised if they lose in the first round, regardless of who their opponent is.
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    Ya, that and to build a little continuity with the D.

    Now who to sit on the O is a whole different story. For one, I really think we should play for home filed through out.

    But if I would sit anyone one, I would let Edleman play instead of Welkah. And more Ocho instead of Branch.

    But I think home field through out the playoffs is priority number 1. So I don't know..
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    Is Andre Johnson a go for next week?

    I really think Houston is in trouble. Without Wade and on there 100th string QB and a gimpy Andre. Kinda feel bad for them.

    Either way if I am Houston I am playing for the win. Could mean home field againts the the Steelers right?
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    The thing i don't understand about this argument is that if you really underestimate HOU, don't you think there's a decent chance of the #6 seed beating HOU? In which case the 2 seed would likely end up playing PITT/BALT and the 1 seed would get the 6 seed.

    Also what if PITT/BALT is upset in the first round? Too many question marks there to NOT want the homefield throughout, when in doubt you want the #1 seed instead of likely having to travel to BALT/PITT if you win in round 2.
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    I am fairly certain that is out because for Houston to finish with the same record as Pittsburgh the Steelers would have to lose - and if the Steelers do lose then they are the #5 seed. Houston as a division winner would have a higher seed (#3), and therefore have home field if they play Pittsburgh.


    As for Andre Johnson, that's a tough call. Give him a week off and hope for the best?
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    I'm with you. A few players getting rest and assuring no injuries sounds great but playing the AFC Championship in Baltimore or Pittsburgh does not. Homefield needs to be locked up, THEN worry about resting players.
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    The open question is whether Belichick will rest Welker and Branch.

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    Ya, you are right, thanks.

    As to Andre, I am no doctor but I do know, hammy injuries are so unpredictable so I would think it would be best to sit him.

    Man, Houston is in a tough spot..
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    I sure as heck do not want to go to B-more for a playoff game. That is for sure. Pitt I would have a bit more confidence but not much more..

    Home field through out is our best shot at making it to the SB IMHO. But who knows..
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    I'd want them out there personally, unless the game gets out of reach.
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    I am inclined to go with sitting them. But with BB I think they will play a little, to much on the line.

    But if I am not mistaken BB sat Welker for the last game of the year last year?
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    I was worried about something like that. Brady ran HARD on Saturday.
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    If I am Houston, I rest up. If I am the Patriots, I play all out to win this weekend.
    MG, Baltimore is perfect at home this season while 4-4 on the road (even a not so unrealistic chance to go 3-5). I think it is fair to conclude a game against Balt in Balt makes us a definite underdog. Conversely, a game vs Balt in NE makes us a definite favorite. I realize being at home has a built in advantage, however, with Balt it appears it is a significant step above the typical built in advantage.

    I hear exactly what you are saying with getting, what appears to be, a faltering Houston team in our first playoff match up. It ideally sets up only a single, albeit very difficult, match up to get to the SB. However, given the faltering play of Houston, it is very uncertain Houston will win (I wouldn't bet a dollar on Hou based on their play the last few weeks). If they don't win, we easily could end up with Pitt in our first game then have to play a Balt team that appears brutally difficult to beat at home.

    The bottom line is things are uncertain with every team not named Balt, Pitt or NE. The smart play is to make sure Pitt and/or Balt have to come to NE.
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    Let's win. There are too many variables. If this was a situation where NE played instead of having a bye and the outcome of their game garanteed a certain opponent - ok. But that is not the case. Win, get home field, let's see what happens then.
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    Agreed, there have been a few recent instances of this. Teams shouldn't turn it down when they are heading into the playoffs....imho
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    Pats need to go for homefield and plus they need to get revenge on the bills. As for the texans, I don't see this as that hard of a decision. If you have guys banged up like Andre Johnson don't play em. The chance of both the ravens & steelers losing this weekend isn't good. Ravens could lose to the bengals but, I doubt steelers lose to the browns. Wouldn't be surprised at all if texans rest a lot of guys.
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    I'm sure BB won't be considering it, but the Pats play the early game. If they win, then Baltimore, which plays a later game, will have nothing to play for and may even be deflated. This helps Cincinnati against the Ravens.

    Just one more event which could help keep the loathsome Rats out of the playoffs.
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    BALT would need PIT to lose too who also play late. if BALT lose and PIT win then PIT gets a first round bye and BALT will have to got to Heinz field in their second game. BALT controls part of it's own destiny steelers have no control over theirs. Pats have full control.
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