New Brady/Guerrero article - NE paying TB12 company to treat NE players

[QuantumMechanic]

I'm glad (and surprised) that the NFL apparently actually issued an on-the-record statement to the Globe that there are no cap implications to this rather than insinuating and smearing. Though we'll see what happens as time goes on.

That said, I wonder what the rules are for such things (i.e. what has to change for something like this -- which the NFL says is OK -- to become problematic) because things of this nature do seem to be an obvious potential way for teams to try to circumvent the cap. And no doubt the haters out there will be firing up the "Cheaters!" thing again over this.

Leaving any cap stuff aside, I don't know how I feel about re: workplace environment. Hope no one is being pressured to use Brady's company. I know at my workplace I'd look askance at my employer having a business relationship with a co-worker's company. Especially if there were complaints about the ethics and methods of one of the principals. But I work a long throw from pro sports .

The Patriots, in an unusual departure from National Football League practice, have created a revenue stream for a private business owned by their franchise quarterback, Tom Brady, and a partner who faced federal sanctions after falsely presenting himself as a medical doctor and deceptively promoting nutritional supplements.
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The NFL says it is aware of the arrangement and has taken no action, despite questions from some specialists in sports law and economics about whether teams should pay for services by for-profit companies owned by their active players and whether the relationship provides value to Brady that should be counted against the club’s salary cap.
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The financial arrangement with TB12 has continued despite complaints from the team’s medical and training staffs to Patriots coach Bill Belichick about Guerrero’s alternative health practices and questionable background.

A source with direct knowledge of one such complaint recalled Belichick’s response: Tom wants him. What am I supposed to do?
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The NFL has raised no such concerns, telling the Globe in a statement, “We are aware of the arrangement and have not determined that there is any violation of the CBA [collective bargaining agreement].’’

The NFL Players Association said the arrangement between the Patriots and Brady’s center “has no implication on the salary cap.’’

The union and the NFL declined to discuss the matter in detail.

Patriots pay a business owned by Tom Brady and a partner with a dubious past - The Boston Globe

 

[RayClay]

What a quack. Look at Brady. he's only 28 and showing signs of breaking down already. What? He's 38 and Just got named to the Pro Bowl after being Super Bowl MVP?

I must have missed that part of the article.

You miss nothing by missing the globe. Nothing.

 

[RayClay]

They're paying Brady? I think they're paying a contractor to get results.

Brady is better at 38 than anyone in football and better than he was when younger.

Who wouldn't pay for that?

 

[FCB02062]

Shocker it's the Globe....

 

[JMC00]

Oh look another Brady/Pats hit piece from the globe. '


"Ben Volin of the Globe staff contributed to this report"

Of course he did.

 

[Fencer]

My view of the article depends heavily on whether or not it includes one essential point -- and it does.

Guerrero’s work with Patriots players precedes his relationship with Brady. He began providing therapy to then-linebacker Willie McGinest at Gillette nearly 15 years ago. On McGinest’s recommendation, other prominent Patriots began seeing Guerrero.

Without that, it would be a hatchet job. With that, it's an attempt to do good journalism.

As for why this doesn't circumvent the salary cap -- whether it does or doesn't depends almost entirely on two factors:

• Whether there's something importantly unique about the service the firm provides. (The answer to that is an obvious yes.)
  
• Whether Brady's firm is charging more than fair market value for its services.

As for why the NFL is behaving decently about issues like this or the headset ruckus? They don't want to create a record of anti--Patriot bias on little things that could get in the way of them screwing the Patriots on big ones.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

My view of the article depends heavily on whether or not it includes one essential point -- and it does.



Without that, it would be a hatchet job. With that, it's an attempt to do good journalism.

As for why this doesn't circumvent the salary cap -- whether it does or doesn't depends almost entirely on two factors:

• Whether there's something importantly unique about the service the firm provides. (The answer to that is an obvious yes.)
  
• Whether Brady's firm is charging more than fair market value for its services.

There's one other issue that could be at play: does Brady directly benefit from any such expenditures? For example, if the ownership structure mandated that Brady receive 10% of all revenues, then one could argue that 10% of whatever the Patriots paid to the company should count against the cap.

 

[Gwedd]

Oh look another Brady/Pats hit piece from the globe. '


"Ben Volin of the Globe staff contributed to this report"

Of course he did.

Well bless his heart.

 

[RayClay]

My view of the article depends heavily on whether or not it includes one essential point -- and it does.



Without that, it would be a hatchet job. With that, it's an attempt to do good journalism.

As for why this doesn't circumvent the salary cap -- whether it does or doesn't depends almost entirely on two factors:

• Whether there's something importantly unique about the service the firm provides. (The answer to that is an obvious yes.)
  
• Whether Brady's firm is charging more than fair market value for its services.

As for why the NFL is behaving decently about issues like this or the headset ruckus? They don't want to create a record of anti--Patriot bias on little things that could get in the way of them screwing the Patriots on big ones.

It's a hatchet job

 

[SVN]

Ben Volin himself said during the deflategate time that he loved covering that more than football. No wonder globe is spending time and money researching this. Has volin's googling fingerprints of kraft/guerrero/Brady/patriots all over it.
Only in ***ing boston our local media does investigative piece on their own franchise marquee player just for the sake of the scoop.Iam surprised this was not released a day before the playoff game.

 

[Ivan]

I am so f.cking sick of all of this bullsh.t.

 

[Canuck]

It's more probable then not that Goodell is generally aware that he could make a big stinking issue out of it if he so chooses sometime during the playoffs and prior to the Super Bowl. That is if Blandino fails to influence the referees or the concussion experts in the stands fail to take a Patriot player off the field at an opportune time. He is probable reluctant to attack the Patriots directly as it seems to always backfire and give them extra motivation rather then be a distraction. Now if his beloved Jets happen to hang onto a playoff spot and meet the Patriots in the playoffs then I shudder to think to what he will do.

 

[smg93]

As a person involved in the financial services industry, I actually believe that TB has to tread very carefully here. Even if all is above board, because the checks and balance system may not be totally transparent provides some cause for concern with respect to the salary cap.

If Peyton Manning took less money from the Broncos than what is his perceived value on the market but the Broncos paid good money to the particular Papa John's franchise he owned for "catering services", there would be more than a few people here with at least one eyebrow raised.

 

[Jackson 2]

Just another cheap shot from the media. This, too, shall pass. Anytime it's a Bob Hoehler piece, its intent is to expose. This is actually an old story. I first heard Dennis and Callahan ridiculing Brady and Guerrero on their WEEI show last March. Since then, they seem to devote a show per month revisiting the issue. Yawn.

 

[DarrylS]

Does Tanguay know about this?? If so he will be on "fire" begging issues and making innuendo's about these nefarious actions..

Perhaps he will once again raise the allegation the Guerrero is supplying Brady with PED's.. after all in the pea size brain of Tanguay all of this makes sense..

It is like the Globe wants the NFL to make this an issue, even though it is not an issue.. modern day journalism has really hit the shytter...

 

[Silver Blue&Red]

Another Volin article lifted from other reporters, old, discarded tripe. I'm almost certain Kraft and TB consulted the MFL about this before it began .You know, the MFL, the upstanding, honest entity it is. And if there is a problem, they will save it for the "right time". ie "broken cell phone gate".
I got through most of the article, but got so F'n bored, I had to stop. It just kept regurgitating the same BS. Nowhere did it say, anyone who used the methods, complained about it's effectiveness. As a matter of fact, much praise. "Conventional medicine" , and the quacks who endorse it, are the real criminal here. The food in this country is killing everyone. Jeez, you can't even eat an apple and not worry about the chemicals that are in it. There are 3rd world counties that refuse to accept our food. The Globe is turning into the National Enquirer. EDIT: It seems people are misunderstanding my post. I have absolutely no problem with what TB is doing. The highlighted part should have shown that . Red = non sarcastic/ Blue = sarcastic. . It was early in the morning.

 

[PP2]

I'm glad (and surprised) that the NFL apparently actually issued an on-the-record statement to the Globe that there are no cap implications to this rather than insinuating and smearing. Though we'll see what happens as time goes on.

That said, I wonder what the rules are for such things (i.e. what has to change for something like this -- which the NFL says is OK -- to become problematic) because things of this nature do seem to be an obvious potential way for teams to try to circumvent the cap. And no doubt the haters out there will be firing up the "Cheaters!" thing again over this.

Leaving any cap stuff aside, I don't know how I feel about re: workplace environment. Hope no one is being pressured to use Brady's company. I know at my workplace I'd look askance at my employer having a business relationship with a co-worker's company. Especially if there were complaints about the ethics and methods of one of the principals. But I work a long throw from pro sports .



Patriots pay a business owned by Tom Brady and a partner with a dubious past - The Boston Globe

OP: be nice if you could include in your title that it's from the Boston Red Sox Globe. And as to the assertion that it's a hit piece- that's quite obvious, online on a Saturday night and undoubtedly in print on gameday.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Based on that article I wouldnt loan him $10.

Ive seen this crap before. Some people just aren't meant to be businesspeople but are good people. Either the drive to get ahead, make money and be successful forces them to compromise their ethics, good judgement and turns them into dummies.

Guerrero clearly does good work and has dozens of clients that swear by him. That is the truth in all if this.

 

[titletownpats]

Oh look another Brady/Pats hit piece from the globe. '


"Ben Volin of the Globe staff contributed to this report"

Of course he did.

Ben Volin is a clown. I love how he did a Google search and claimed Kraft funded the AEI report assuming Kraft is associated with the Kraft Foundation. 5th grade students double check sources more than one Google click. I usually remind him about this once a month on Twitter.

 

[Brewskies]

This is not new news. Almost the exact same article was written about in the past.

IMHO, this is something I wish the Pats were not involved with. It smacks of trouble for the Pats. Let the players pay themselves if interested in the services provided.

IMHO another example of Brady skating on the edge.