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(My Prediction) there will be a push for us to forfeit our OTHER 1st rd pick

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    I just got this feeling that the week or two prior to the draft, the media,players ,franchises, and even loony politicians will go on a great crusade to force goddell to swipe away our 7th overall pick.Most likely some other "source" will point his finger at the pats and some overzealous journalist will run with it, thus furthering more probing into the pats practices. there will be great pressure on the NFL and the commisioner to do something. I have no proof whatsoever but im pretty sure it will happen. anyone feel the same?
     
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    Re: (My Prediction)there will be a push for us to forfeit our OTHER 1st rd pick

    they can't, its not ours. we traded for it. that would be like asking us to forfeit randy moss. you cant take away something we traded value to get in the past.
     
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    Re: (My Prediction)there will be a push for us to forfeit our OTHER 1st rd pick

    No chance! There is a NFL rule that a team cannot be punished twice for an offense once the first punishment has been carried out.
     
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    Re: (My Prediction)there will be a push for us to forfeit our OTHER 1st rd pick

    Chicken Little is standing over there, waiting for you to keep him company. :bricks:
     
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    Re: (My Prediction)there will be a push for us to forfeit our OTHER 1st rd pick

    If that happens, I'm out and taking my NFL Sunday Ticket money with me. OK, my $250 means nothing to the NFL but they still wouldn't be getting it.
     
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    Re: (My Prediction)there will be a push for us to forfeit our OTHER 1st rd pick

    but if theres more "evidence" godgell said he will further punish the pats specifically bill belichick.


    cant they give it back to the 49ers or just forfeit that spot?
     
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    Re: (My Prediction)there will be a push for us to forfeit our OTHER 1st rd pick

    actually, as far as all this bull spygate crap is concerned, the NFL should GIVE BACK the draft pick they took.
     
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    Re: (My Prediction)there will be a push for us to forfeit our OTHER 1st rd pick

    From who ...honestly senetor spins is going to take the no1 pick and do what with it.

    the steelers , mike martz and vermiel and the nfl are circling the wagons this is a fight against NFL and i do not know but this whole senator thing as united the nfl more .
     
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    Re: (My Prediction)there will be a push for us to forfeit our OTHER 1st rd pick

    Rest easy on that fear.

    Goodell, having overreacted in September with the punishment that did not fit the actual crime (his own words were that it didn't alter the outcome of any games), is now moving in the other direction.

    He will strongly resist any pressure now to come down even harder on the Pats, because it will make it look like he covered up something when the events broke, or that he didn't investigate hard enough at the timem which would be far worse for the league. All the overreaction by Specter has made Goodell into more of an ally now.

    The only way is just what he said--if any new, reliable, material information comes out that makes him reevaluate.

    There is a better chance of him reinstating our lost #1 than taking away the other #1 now.
     
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    Re: (My Prediction)there will be a push for us to forfeit our OTHER 1st rd pick

    hey, I don't own a tin foil hat, but if you haven't noticed our team is the most hated team in quite some time and their being attacked. this is definitely something that could happen.
     
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    Re: (My Prediction)there will be a push for us to forfeit our OTHER 1st rd pick

    No way, no how. Can't happen. Won't happen. Shouldn't happen.

    If anything, we should get OUR pick back.
     
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    Re: (My Prediction)there will be a push for us to forfeit our OTHER 1st rd pick

    Sure there will be a call for it to happen just like there were calls for Belichick to be suspended during some key games this season, just like spygate resurfaced and spector came into the picture the week right before the superbowl. They're all just attempts to derail us during times of critical preparation. And I'm sure there will be a huge to do about it during draft week, and there will be deafening chants and boos when our #1 pick hits the stage come draft day I can't wait.
     
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    Re: (My Prediction)there will be a push for us to forfeit our OTHER 1st rd pick

    Actually it would be more effective if people would switch from Comcast to satellite or whatever and send Comcast a letter telling them why.
     
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    Re: (My Prediction)there will be a push for us to forfeit our OTHER 1st rd pick

    I don't think it will happen, but nothing would surprise me anymore.
     
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    Re: (My Prediction)there will be a push for us to forfeit our OTHER 1st rd pick

    As other folks have noted, Goodell said back in September that the fines and the forfeited pick were punishment for everything he knew about.

    The ONLY way the Pats can be further punished is if Goodell learns that the Patriots lied to him. Nothing that's happened so far indicates that has happened.
     
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    Re: (My Prediction)there will be a push for us to forfeit our OTHER 1st rd pick

    I dont think any further punishment will happen, but this:

    is lol. if Goodell found out BB lied through his teeth, I would consider that pick gone. if it's not "ours" then who is currently planning on drafting #7? San Fran?
     
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    Re: (My Prediction)there will be a push for us to forfeit our OTHER 1st rd pick

    Not to be facetious, but why couldn't he have just said, then, that the Patriots would forfeit the higher of their two first-rounders?

    I have no evidence one way or the other, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's an NFL rule that basically says once a pick is officially traded, it belongs unconditionally to the new team. Heck, even that craptacular SI poll from yesterday didn't suggest taking away the SF pick. (Also, the Commissioner does NOT have unlimited powers. For example, the NFL rules specifically forbid him from unilaterally declaring a forfeit.)
     
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    Re: (My Prediction)there will be a push for us to forfeit our OTHER 1st rd pick

    so would that mean we would get what we trade the pick for if they take it. taking the 7 pick away that is like taking 2 picks away the one we trade for to get it and the pick it self that is why they won't
     
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    Re: (My Prediction)there will be a push for us to forfeit our OTHER 1st rd pick

    b/c he decided not to?

    almost everyone knew that the "SF Pick" would be higher than "our" pick, so maybe he thought just taking away "our" pick was sufficient. I dunno, there are lots of things he could have done, but didn't (like suspend BB)
     
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    Re: (My Prediction)there will be a push for us to forfeit our OTHER 1st rd pick


    The irony would be if the end result is that it turns out that either or both of Pennsylvania's teams were doing the same thing.........and it comes back to bite Senator Spector in the tuchas.....
    IIRC Eagles management and Andy Reid were exceptionally quiet about spygate leading me to conclude that maybe they were doing the same thing.......
     
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