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  1. NoCal Patriot

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    The Rushing Defense was not good.I know that they weren't using any "Combo Defenses" but when Tampa and The Giants lined up hat to hat ,the defensive line went backwards.It is correctable but it better happen before Larry Johnson comes for a visit.
    Smile people,Our next game is a real one !
     
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    The short passing game defensively has been chewed up with the starters in too. Like you I have marginal confidence in the defense right now even though it looks excellent on paper. Getting Tommy back and giving the defense a lead to work with should help - it had better.
     
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    I have only one concern: Brady's foot. I have complete confidence in every other aspect of this team.

    Our defensive line consists of a healthy Seymour, the best NT in the NFL, and the great Ty Warren and Jarvis Green. There is none better.

    Our LBing corps consists of A. Thomas, maybe our best defensive player, Vrabel a pro bowler, Mayo a top 10 pick who has acclimated faster than anyone could have hoped, and the sage Tedy Bruschi.

    Our secondary has two HOFers who can still lay the lumber, a 1st rd FS pick (Meriweather) on the mend who seems to have a borderline psychotic on-field temperament and enjoys throwing his body around like a madman. Our CBs are being mentored by one of the best secondary coaches in NFL history, Dom Capers.

    Our offense has the best Qb and WR in NFL history IMO.

    Dave Thomas is healthy and ready to lend his stickum hands to the common cause. Maroney demonstrated his worth on the grandest of stages throughout last season's playoffs, Lamont Jordan looks rejuvenated and back to pre-Oakland form, Matt Light is healthy and ready to go.

    Our head coach is an acknowledged genius in his profession.

    Our draft class, even excluding our top 10 day one starter, looks to be as good as any since 2003.

    Wheatley may start immediately. Crable is a freak with enormous upside. O'Connell has shown real talent. Slater can, in time, become an impact safety. Guyton should make the team, and might start immediately on another roster with a simpler scheme.

    Our prospects for this season could not be brighter, provided Brady is healthy and upright.
     
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    My concern is simple.

    Sloppy sloppy play

    Missed tackles, missed blocks, missed reads, missed opportunities, mental mistakes on the field, penalties etc...

    If Brady had played we would have won one or two games in the pre-season and likely there'd be much less preseason concern, but the sloppy play would still be there

    those are the mistakes we can't afford when the games become real
     
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    BB certainly hasnt shown any concern in his press conferences. That has to be a good sign. So if Bill's ok.. I'm ok...;)
     
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    Your right, nothing to worry about at all. We have the best team in the history of the sport, and should win all our games not problem. ON PAPER means nothing. We have a great team, but the outlook you have leads me to believe you are chugging a little bit to much of the kool-aid.

    WAKE UP :rolleyes:
     
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    Here are the preseason stats ....Patriots vs Opponents

    http://www.nfl.com/teams/newenglandpatriots/statistics?team=NE

    Clearly the first team offense sat out the preseason.
    Reviewing the 4 preseason games' drive charts, the opposition has consistently been able to march the ball down the field against the D. Yesterday, there were 5 drives of 9 or more plays. At Tampa, the Bucs opened the game with 17 plays and a TD. The Bucs had 5 drives of 8 or more plays resulting in 4 scores and the end of game.
    For those that say...its preseason...if memory serves me correctly...the Pats D showed similar deficiencies last season. Opponents were able to drive down the field on their opening drive (didn't happen in the SB years) and the Pats were disfunctional in the red zone.
    Time will tell...and because of the soft schedule, we may have to wait till the Pats play a skilled opponent.
     
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    I think you can't see the forest from the trees. Assuming Brady is healthy, the Pats emerged from the preseason in great physical shape.

    They have paced themselves through the preseason, due to the fact they played an extra month of football last year.

    The Jets have nothing to prepare for in regards to the offense, which we know BB has adjusted this offseason.

    The D has not been scheming or even trying really. The intensity switch will be a thing to behold for the doubters. They may flounder somewhat early one, but will get better as the season goes on and young players become acclimated.

    I was somewhat concerned by the lack of intensity earlier, but I don't believe it is a significant issue, or a symptom of some franchise decay. It is simply a different strategy.
     
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    I can see perfectly. This website is a place of extremes. We have the posters who act like everything is fine, and we are the greatest team on earth, and during the preseason nothing matters, and that” we weren’t trying”.

    Then we have the posters who are doom and gloom, and worried about the team and it’s players.

    The answer is somewhere in the middle. Things are not as rosy as you portray them, and not as bad some portray them.
     
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    My prediction is 12-4 and winning the AFC East. That's too rosy for you? You're the one who set up the straw man argument "The team is the best ever and will not lose". There's every reason for optimism and gnawing your fingernails over the 4th preseason game is comical.
     
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    I have zero concerns about our pass defense right now based on the preseason. When you line the CBs off the ball 10-15 yards like they did all preseason, you are going to give up the short passing game. The Pats were in a very soft defense all preseason.

    There are things I am concerned with about this defense, but few or none based on what I saw in the preseason. The Pats lined up in a basic defense with the secondary playing deep even on running downs. I doubt we will see these defensive configurations next Sunday.

    The Patriots' defense is based on smart players disguising rushes and coverages and a lot of presnap movement to keep the opposing offenses off kilter. We usually see some of that in the third preseason game, but we didn't even see that in that game this year.
     
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    Can we pretend that the team went 16-0 last season and is, in fact, the greatest team on Earth? Can we just pretend that? Can we just make believe that this team played the entire preseason without it's #1 quarterback, and almost every exhibition game without several of the starters?


    Oh, wait, that's not pretend.....
     
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    Last year means nothing. The O line injuries already changed the dynamic of the team, never mind the loss of a few players. It's a different team, and injuries will contribute to that fact as the season wears on.

    Again, guys like you talk like the Pats have nothing to worry about, they are in great shape, and we are going to the super bowl.

    Guys like me look at the weaknesses on the team, and admit that we have a great team, but that everything is not alright in pats land.

    The answer is somewhere in the middle. I will bet you any sum of money that the O does not perform as good as it did last year.

    Btw, your hostile and sarcastic remarks (in regards to everything I write) proves my point ; that you are not objective. Say anything remotely critical of the pats, and here you come guns blazing.
     
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