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    apparently once they came to gillette they were summoned to pioli's office who said things had changed and asked them to return..
    what does this mean ? Hopefully not culpepper.
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    Re: Mort:Simms and Rattay sent back

    It means that Cassel is the MAN. They will give him a chance to prove it.
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    Re: Mort:Simms and Rattay sent back

    it means mort is covering his Arse because he didn't have his facts straight..
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    Re: Mort:Simms and Rattay sent back

    i mean as a backup...they must have another backup than the rookie o'connell
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    Re: Mort:Simms and Rattay sent back

    Mix that with the Culpepper Wikipedia entry and he may very well be riding his bike to Foxboro for a back-up job with a truly elite football team.
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    Link???


    This sounds like BS to me. He was probably the guy that said they were coming in and was wrong and can't admit it. BB said today in the PC that they have not contacted any qb's and had no plans to (although plenty have called them).
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    Re: Mort:Simms and Rattay sent back

    Cassel and O'connell are the 2 backups. That's it. Good luck to Cassel.
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    Re: Mort:Simms and Rattay sent back

    was on ESPN
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    Re: Mort:Simms and Rattay sent back

    Pats have to get a vet back up, have to.

    I would not have confidence in the Pats O line to guarantee Cassells safety, Just saying I have seen teams lose there starter and backup QB for the game on the same series of downs.
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    I smell BS on this. You want me to believe that both these guys travelled halfway cross country to get to Foxboro to be told " oops, we don't need you"???? Even if they didn't. they'd have them throw it anyway. Otherwise, the Pats would look like a two bit operation.
    Whoever planted/fabricated the story is playing cya....
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    Re: Mort:Simms and Rattay sent back

    Right. I can't imagine not working them out out of curiosity if they were there anyway.

    Sounds as if there was a reporting screwup. The agents probably planted the stories as being something supposedly likely to happen, and ESPN misinterpreted that as it being more definite, hoping for a scoop. Oops.
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    Re: Mortensen: Pioli sends Simms and Rattay back to airport

    Please no Dante Culpepper .. I know Moss wants him,but please no Dante.. I would hope a trade , like for Damon Huard would be nice.. I dont know any other backups available..
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    I think I would take Vinny over Culpepper right now, but this might be a vote of confidence for Casell
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    Re: Mortensen: Pioli sends Simms and Rattay back to airport

    Correct me if im wrong, but Huard is no longer a backup, unless I missed something.
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    Something has to be going on, I can't imagine we're going with just Cassel and O'Connell - and even if we were we'd probably work some guys out just to have a list ready to go in case Cassel gets hurt this week.
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    There is a hole on the roster spot

    It is at the #2 QB position (or shall I say #2 for now until Cassel blows some games down the road)

    There is a 99.9% chance the roster spot will go to a QB Veteran
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    I have to think that the Titans are also coveting Sims or Rattay given that Young is going to be sidelined for the next several weeks.
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    Re: Mort:Simms and Rattay sent back

    How many teams only carry two quarterbacks? It's a serious question. I was under the impression that a third quarterback was largely free (except for the salary) because you can designate a third QB who doesn't take up a roster spot but can still play, as long as once he enters the game after the third quarter, he can't come out.

    Maybe I'm mistaken about some of this, but I think the Patriots have to get a 3d QB now, right?
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    Down here in Nashville, I have heard Simms' name mention today, but that might have been on ESPN as well. Cant remember, but I have heard that they(Titans) are looking at him.
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    Re: Mort:Simms and Rattay sent back

    BB is on WEEI right now and says Cassel is the guy. They are not bringing in any other qb's unless it's Gutz because it would take another guy too long to learn the system. So it's Cassel, O'Connel, and maybe Gutz....the end!

    http://www.surfmusic.de/radio-station/weei-850-am,6068.html
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    Bill is on WEEI now and he just said there is no plan to look at additional backups now. That may change but we have not called anyone although several agents and players have called us... Said Matt and Kevin will be the starter and backup for this weekend, said Gutz is still available and could be a consideration. Talked about how difficult it is to bring in any guy who doesn't know a system. Takes weeks or more to get even a functional familiarity with it, forces you to cut the playbook down by 70-80% just so they can practice. Reiterated that there is not Matt Cassel playbook - he runs the full offense. Will have the normal input any starter has regarding his personal preferences and dislikes based on his comfort level with certain plays.
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    maybe talking to eagles for feely ? but as per BB on WEEI it would make no sense to have a new QB to come in a learn the system. it will take a few weeks for him to be productive. in think in all likeliness gutz will be back.
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    I would have thought they'd bring in a 3rd guy to at least get a little familiar with the offense - injuries can happen in bunches. Is Gutierrez eligible for the Practice Squad ? If so that would seem like an obvious move.
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    Culpepper is the option here. Just a few years ago he was an elite QB.. Unfortunately he had a severe injury that cost him his job in Minn.. He was never fully healed in Miami and really never had a supporting cast, never mind the fact Miami had poor coaching, remember Saban... And lets not get started about Oakland..


    Culpepper has the greatest upside of any of the Qb's out there.. He only retired because he wanted a chance to start and no one would offer it to him.. Well he is in the perfect situation here (if he comes), he'll start.. Mark my words, he'll start over cassel by week 5.
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    we need to just stick with Cassel at this point. We need to run the hell out of the ball and put him in managable passing downs. Look at the Bears/Colts game last night. Bears played good D and ran the ball well. Orton was put into good passing downs ie 3 and 5 or so and he made the passes. Same thing with us now. RUN THE HELL OUT OF THE BALL! look, we have 3 RBs that can run the ball. We can run all day without getting tired if we spell them evenly. We are not going to put up the scoring numbers like last year, but we will still be able to win the majority of our games given our schedule.
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    Are you even paying attention to this thread? Please refer to the previous posts about BB on WEEI.
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    I'm marking your words, because it won't happen. He can't get in here and get up to speed and run this offense effectively in a reasonable amount of time, and they won't change the scheme to accommodate him. I'm not sure he could ever run this scheme, honestly.
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    Re: Mort:Simms and Rattay sent back

    Can you access BB's press conference at patriots.com?

    He was asked what he would do about QBs and said he had two on the roster.

    When asked if he had faith in them, he said if he didn't believe they could do the job they wouldn't be on the roster.

    Face it, Cassel is our 2008 QB.

    Prepare for this site to be bombarded by Charger, Jet and Colt trolls making fun of our QB and predicting we are doomed. Oh, wait. We're already doing that by ourselves. Never mind, no Charger, Jet or COlts trolls needed.

    Several times in the press conference when pressed as to what he would do, he always came back with, "We'll do what is best for the team."

    At the end of the conference, when asked yet again about whether or not he worked out players, he said he did not but wouldn't rule it out in the future because he would "do what is best for the team." Then he chuckled and smirked. I loved it.
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    Not having Randy Moss make him look good and exposing him cost him his job.

    He is the total opposite of the type of QB to play here.

    BB is more likely to bring in Bernie Kosar than Dante Culpepper.
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