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    Originally I placed this in obscure part of PatsFans.com but I figured I'd re-post this over here. Some of the data in relation to other NFL players and teams may be slightly off since it was written prior to last Sunday's games, but I'm not about to go back through it all again right now.


    Milestones for the 2009 Patriots





    Team

    The franchise now has 382 wins, tied with the Dolphins and Chiefs for 17th most in NFL history. Of course many teams have been around much longer than the Pats. Among the franchises that started play in 1960 or later, that number of wins ranks 5th, behind only the Cowboys, Raiders, Vikings and Broncos.

    The Pats have passed the Ravens and remain ahead of the Steelers with an all-time winning percentage of .518, which is 15th best of the 32 current franchises; by the end of the year the Pats should move up two notches past .519 Washington and .520 Kansas City, with a chance of moving past Jacksonville as well. Not a particularly significant stat, but something to keep in your back pocket when some fan of another team – one wearing black and gold, for example – starts talking about how the Pats were so bad for so long and their team has such a better history.



    Bill Belichick

    Belichick now ranks 22nd in years of head coaching, with 15. With 231 wins he is tied with Jim Mora for the 21st most wins by a coach; it now looks like he may pass Jeff Fisher (236) in this category this year, and possibly catch Hank Stram (19th, with 238) as well. Currently Belichick has won 55 more games than he has lost. If the Pats finish the season 12-4, that would move him past Bill Cowher and tie him with Joe Gibbs for 12th all-time at 60 games over .500. Prepare for the excuses and backlash now.

    If the Pats make the playoffs this year, it will be Belichick’s 8th year in the post-season. That would rank 16th best in NFL history, tied with George Halas, John Madden, Marv Levy and Dennis Green. Belichick now ranks 9th all-time with 19 playoff games; he is just one behind Dan Reeves, two behind Bill Cowher, and three behind Bud Grant. And he currently ranks 5th with 15 playoff victories; that is only one behind Chuck Noll and two behind Joe Gibbs. Should the Pats win the AFC championship that would tie Belichick with Tom Landry for 2nd most conference championships, with a total of five. And if the Pats win it all, that would equal the most Super Bowl victories by a coach, held by Noll with four; it would also place him 5th in NFL history in number of championships, behind only legends Paul Brown, Curly Lambeau, George Halas and Vince Lombardi.
     
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    Milestones for the 2009 Patriots: Brady, Moss, Welker

    Tom Brady

    Brady currently has 212 career touchdown passes; his next TD pass will move him past Terry Bradshaw, and the next after that will tie him with John Brodie. With twenty TD passes the rest of the way, Brady will match Steve Young’s career total, which is 20th most all-time.

    Brady ranks 40th in career passing yards with 28,478. He needs to average only 170 yards per game to become the 32nd player in NFL history to throw for 30,000 yards. Tom needs to complete twenty more passes to reach 2,500 for his career. Right now he ranks 30th in passes completed; his 2,480 are 15 fewer than Kurt Warner, and 14 more than Drew Brees’ total.

    Tom currently ranks 60th all-time with 17 playoff starts. One more moves him up in the rankings to 43rd, two more to 22nd, and three more to 14th all-time.


    In four more games Brady will move into 2nd place in Pats history in games played by a QB. He needs 64 more completions to set the Pats record for most completions. He needs 1180 more yards to pass Drew Bledsoe as the all time passing yardage leader for the Pats.



    Randy Moss

    Moss now has 139 touchdown receptions, which is third best all-time; he is now just one behind Terrell Owens’ total. Randy is 9th in career receiving yards with 13,766; he needs only 12 more to pass Henry Ellard, 134 to pass former teammate Cris Carter, and 239 to pass James Lofton, which would put him 6th on the all-time list.

    With 75 yards Randy will become the 24th player with 14,000 yards from scrimmage. He needs to average 76 yards per game to pass #20 Marvin Harrison, and 99 yards per game to pass Jim Brown in this category. He has 14,120 all-purpose yards, which is 36th best; he needs 98 yards per game to become the 25th NFL player with 15,000.

    Randy now has 140 touchdowns in his career, one of only six players to reach that mark. He is currently two behind both Terrell Owens and LaDainian Tomlinson, and five behind Marcus Allen.

    Moss is now 66th in points scored with 846. That means he needs nine touchdowns to reach 900 points; among non-kickers only Emmitt Smith has over 900. Randy is 4th among non-kickers in points scored all-time; he is six points behind LaDainian Tomlinson and twelve behind Terrell Owens.

    Randy has now started 164 games; if he starts the rest of the games this season that will be 173, which would put him in 164th place all-time.


    With 228 points scored since he arrived 2007, Moss now ranks 16th all-time in Pats history; with two more touchdowns he will move past Corey Dillon, Jim Colclough and Matt Bahr into 13th place.

    Moss needs eight touchdowns – 48 points – to match Jim Nance’s total of 276 points as a Pat; that would place him 9th in team history for points scored.

    Moss now has 38 receiving touchdowns as a Pat, tying him with Irving Fryar in that category. His next TD will match Colclough’s total, and four more will equal the number Gino Cappelletti scored; he needs twelve to equal Ben Coates’ total of 50 for 2nd place in Pats history behind Stanley Morgan.

    Randy has now passed Russ Francis, and is tied with Sam Cunningham and Marv Cook for 13th in receptions as a Patriot with 210. He should be moving up that list soon; he is only three behind Deion Branch and seven in back of Vincent Brisby; Moss needs 51 more catches to move into the top ten.

    Moss now ranks 14th in team history with 3066 receiving yards, but that could change quickly. With 96 more yards he will move into 9th place, passing Shawn Jefferson, Art Graham, Brisby, Francis, and Harold Jackson.



    Wes Welker

    Wes now has 365 career receptions, which is 219th all-time. In the next game against Miami game he should move past many other players on that list, ranging from Frank Gifford to Bob Hayes. Welker should easily pass the 400-reception milestone this year, and could rank in the top 150 of all time by season’s end.

    Welker now ranks 43rd with 183 punt returns; with 17 more he will become the 35th player with 200 punt returns. Wes ranks 4th among active players and 37th all-time with 1,792 punt return yards; he needs to average just over 24 yards per game to become the 32nd player in NFL history with 2000 yards in punt returns. Welker also ranks 52nd in number of kickoff returns with 178 and 54th in kickoff yards with 4,060, but I don’t think those totals are going to change very much.


    Wes is now 43rd in team history with 92 points; he could be in the high-twenties when the season is done.

    Welker’s 56 punt returns as a Pat ties him for 8th in team history with Ron Burton; he needs 18 more to equal Mack Herron’s total of 74.

    Welker passed Deion Branch last week and now ranks 16th in team history with 2824 yards receiving. With 339 more yards Welker will pass Harold Jackson, who is currently 9th on the team’s all-time list.
     
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    Milestones for the 2009 Patriots: Watson, Faulk, Galloway, Taylor

    Ben Watson

    Watson’s next touchdown will give him 20 as a Pat – he would be the 23rd player in team history to do that. Three more touchdowns would tie him with Terry Glenn and Andy Johnson for 26th place in team history with 132 points, passing John Stephens, Ron Burton, Art Graham and Mosi Tatupu along the way.

    Watson needs only 80 more yards receiving to become the 25th player in Pats history to have 2000 yards receiving, and 295 to move past David Givens into 24th place.



    Joey Galloway

    Assuming his career is over, Galloway fell just short of his bid to become the 30th player in NFL history with 700 receptions; he is ranked 32nd in NFL history with 682. Galloway also fell short of becoming the 23rd player to reach 11,000 yards in pass receptions; he finished 25th with 10,710 – six yards behind Stanley Morgan. And Galloway failed to become the 19th player in NFL history with at least 80 touchdown receptions – he finished his career with 77 – and came up short of the 377 yards he needed this year to become the 52nd player in NFL history with 13,000 all-purpose yards. He also needed only two more touchdowns to move into 40th place all time, ending up with 83. Joey ranks 54th all-time with 11,206 yards from scrimmage.



    Kevin Faulk

    Faulk caught the 400th pass of his career last week, which puts him at number 180 all-time. If he continues to catch about three passes per game that should move him up to about 150th in NFL history by the end of the season.

    Kevin has also now cracked the top-250 in career rushing yardage; he now stands at #245 with 3,264 yards. He is also now #242 with 6,725 total yards from scrimmage; by averaging at least 31 yards per game will become the 225th NFL player with 7,000 yards from scrimmage.

    Faulk needs one more punt return to become the 153rd player in NFL history with at least 100 punt returns. One player I was surprised to see in this ranking was former Pat Hank Poteat, who has 77. Kevin is also 49th in kickoff returns with 181, and 53rd with 4,098 – just ahead of Wes Welker.


    With one more playoff game played Kevin (along with Tom Brady) will move into 97th place all-time with 18; two more will place them 68th with 19; and three more would place them 50th with 20. That would still leave them behind Larry Izzo, however, who has 21 appearances.

    Faulk needs two touchdowns to become the 21st player to score 200 points as a Patriot. If he finds the end zone five times he will move past Troy Brown and Steve Grogan, into 18th place on the Patriots’ all-time scoring list. Kevin already ranks first in team history with 11,755 all-purpose yards, 4098 kick return yards, and 181 kickoff returns. He needs 28 more punt return yards to pass Stanley Morgan for 5th place, and 12 more punt returns to pass Mike Haynes for 4th place in team history. His 400 receptions are 4th in team history.

    Faulk needs 127 rushing yards to move into 5th place in team history. That would move him past Don Calhoun; earlier this season Faulk past Corey Dillon and John Stephens.



    Fred Taylor

    Taylor’s injury has postponed his assault on the all-time rushing leader boards. Right now he is about 500 yards behind LaDainian Tomlinson and 600 behind Thurman Thomas. The preseason thought of catching #8, Jim Brown (12,312) won’t happen till the very end of 2010 at the earliest; with each passing week the chance of joining the 12,000-yard club gets slimmer and slimmer.

    Fred was just passed by Randy Moss in career yards from scrimmage; he now ranks 26th with 13,850. Only 23 NFL players have reached 14,000 yards from scrimmage in their careers. With 150 more yards Taylor would also become the 38th with 14,000 all-purpose yards.
     
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    Milestones for the 2009 Patriots: Morris, Maroney, BJGE

    Sammy Morris

    Morris ranks 59th in Pats history with 66 points; three more touchdowns would move him up to 48th. His 11 touchdowns ties him 19th all-time with Craig James; he needs two more to equal the total by Andy Johnson and Leonard Russell for 17th place.

    Morris ranks 22nd in Pats history with 1220 rushing yards; he needs 117 more to pass Bob Perryman, Mack Herron and Horace Ivory for 19th place.




    Laurence Maroney

    Maroney is tied with Wes Welker and Babe Parilli for 43rd place in Pats history with 92 points. His next touchdown will move him past Darryl Stingley and Mack Herron; two more will push him past David Patten, Horace Ivory, Jim Whalen, Daniel Graham, and Charlie Gogolack on the all-time scoring list.

    Maroney needs 62 more rushing yards for 2000 on his career; 298 more yards will move him into 14th place in Pats team history, passing Carl Garrett, Steve Grogan and Andy Johnson’s career totals.

    Maroney and Kevin Faulk both now have 14 career rushing touchdowns. They need one more to move into 11th place with Carl Garrett, three more to move into 10th with John Stephens, and four more to move up to 9th with Mosi Tatupu.



    BenJarvus Green-Ellis

    BJGE has five rushing touchdowns as a Pat; two more would put him place him 28th in team history. He now needs 16 more yards to move past LaMont Jordan into 49th place on the Pats all-time rushing yardage list. With 152 more yards he becomes the 41st Patriot with 500 yards rushing.
     
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    Milestones: Gostkowski, Seau, Springs, Mankins and Hoyer

    Stephen Gostkowski

    Gostkowski ranks 186th in scoring all-time – at the age of 24 – with 448 points. With an average of six points per game he will pass the 500-point mark – a feat accomplished by 154 others in NFL history. I don’t know for a fact, but I am guessing he may be the youngest player to do that if and when that happens. He has also moved past Tony Franklin into 4th place on the Patriots’ all-time scoring list.

    Gostkowski needs to kick 22 more extra points to become the 100th player in NFL history to accomplish that feat. He also needs ten more field goals to become the 109th player to kick 100 field goals in his career.



    Junior Seau

    Seau has now moved into 19th place in NFL history with 263 games played; in early December he should pass Lou Groza for 18th all-time. Junior is also 10th overall in games started with 243; with five starts he would match Clay Matthews’ total.



    Shawn Springs

    Springs currently has 32 career interceptions which is 160th all-time – tied with, among others, Tom Landry and Nick Buoniconti. With one more he joins a group of nine others, including Herm Edwards, for 151st place; two more matches the total of 16 other players (including Rodney Harrison and Deltha O’Neal); and four more would match Raymond Clayborn’s career total for 111th on the all-time list.



    Logan Mankins

    Mankins needs a reception for at least one yard. Why, you ask? Because he is currently in dead last in Pats history in receiving yardage, with negative nine yards. That would break his deadlock with Drew Bledsoe in this category, moving him into sole possession of 255th place in this ranking.



    Brian Hoyer

    Of the 76 players in franchise history who have attempted at least one pass for the Pats, Hoyer has quickly moved halfway up the chart to 38th with 52 yards passing – leaving him currently 28 yards behind Michael Bishop and 36 behind Rohan Davey. A bit of trivia: among those at the bottom with zero yards is a guy named Tom Dimitroff, who had played in the first-ever CFL game two years earlier, was 0/2 in 1960. The guy worked as a coach in the CFL, and eventually as a scout for the Detroit Lions and Cleveland Browns in the 1990’s. His son then joined him as a scout – yep, that Thomas Dimitroff – on a staff that included Scot Pioli and Bill Belichick.
     
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    Wow this is an impressive post... I'll admit if you didn't post it here I probably never would have read this or looked up some of this information out of curiosity. Keep up the good work jmt57!
     
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    Good job. I've been tracking some of this information as well.

    However, the bolded text above is wrong. You've confused wins with games. Belichick has coached 231 regular season games and has 143 wins which is tied with Marv Levy for 18th best all time.

    BB has a chance to pass Shanahan(146), Cowher (149), and Steve Owen (151) this season, although the Pats would need to win out in order for him to catch Owen and move into 14th place.
     
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    Re: Milestones: Gostkowski, Seau, Springs, Mankins and Hoyer

    No, he won't be the youngest, but he might well be the fastest.

    Only one player in NFL history has scored 500 points in his first four seasons in the league—Chip Lohmiller of the Washington Redskins, who finished with 505, and that only with a 16-point effort in the last game of his fourth season. Gostkowski needs 52 points in the next eight games to eclipse that mark.

    Also, (A) "that feat" in the second paragraph is "200 XP," and (B) Gostkowski's already 25.
     
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    Thanks for the corrections guys. I had a feeling I probably either missed or over looked a few things, but that was really pretty quick figuring those out.
     
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