emoney_33
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Revis says Hi
And his DC that says he had safety help says HI back.
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Vs one living in the fanboy football of 2007, a season that as December played on it became apparent that fantasy football had a big fat Achilles heel.
The "top QB in football" has shown us 3 times that he does not need stats wideouts to win rings. Sorry you missed those seasons. Of course we need WR help, just not a locker room cancer and not a prima. Spend the effort protecting The Franchise and continuing to add to that young D.
Because we don't have that team that can handle character issues any more and we've tried winning in the first half of Brady's career with and without a top tier WR and guess what, we won more when we didn't have one and the money can be better spent on rebuilding the kind of defense and chatacter those teams had. That is what Brady wants to be surrounded with. Not guys he can't trust to show up when the chips are down.
In '06 we made it to the AFCC game with freakin' Reche Caldwell as the #1 and Jabar Gaffney signed off the street as the #2. If that's the worst that happens to this team going forward, I can deal with it. If spending $10M on a diva WR with issues gets me one game farther, I'll pass and spend that money on OL and DL instead and just find Brady some hard nosed football players to throw the ball to. Because I believe in the long run that will get them farther. The reason you draft and develop your own stars is value. Paying a #1 and $10M per for Brandon Marshall wouldn't be a smart move even if he wasn't a character concern. Which is probably why no one is signing him to an offer sheet or even offering Denver something less in trade. If Denver wanted to retain him they would have put the higher tender on him. They want value for him because Josh is also retooling a defense and rebuilding a culture in his locker room and there is no place for him in that mix. And that is something he learned from the guy who got rid of a diva called "She" back in 2001 when we had no WR's beyond an undervalued slot receiver and some UDFA JAG named Patten and a friggin' bowling ball TE who never made a play unless it mattered...
Vs one living in the fanboy football of 2007, a season that as December played on it became apparent that fantasy football had a big fat Achilles heel.
The "top QB in football" has shown us 3 times that he does not need stats wideouts to win rings. Sorry you missed those seasons. Of course we need WR help, just not a locker room cancer and not a prima. Spend the effort protecting The Franchise and continuing to add to that young D.
How'd 2007 work out for ya?
I'll take 2004.
By December 2007, teams had caught onto Air Patriots and games were squeakers. The rest including 2009 is history.
This is a pretty funny statement. Sure we'll all take the year we won the superbowl... in HINDSIGHT. Anyone who thinks going into a season with the 2007 team doesn't have a higher chance of winning the SB, well I dunno what to tell ya.
If I throw a coin 5 times hard off the wall and get heads 5 times that doesn't mean throwing the coin hard off the wall makes heads a more likely outcome than tails.
How'd 2007 work out for ya?
I'll take 2004.
By December 2007, teams had caught onto Air Patriots and games were squeakers. The rest including 2009 is history.
Ah, the age old Moss argument. Please, quadruple coverage? Are you kidding me? People were even saying he was being tripled in the Ravens game. Not true. Foxworth was lined up with him 1 on 1 for a good amount of that game. Reed played a lot of centerfield and on some plays gave safety help exclusively on Moss.
The Ravens got physical with him at the line, had Suggs hit him coming off the LOS a few times, and took him out of his element. Randy Moss was not even doubled most of the time in that game. And that's without having Welker on the field.
The Ravens played a lot of similar schemes that the Jets played. A lot of press man to man, blitzing LB's and a safety, with one safety playing centerfield. So technically Revis doesn't have safety help on every play. And he really doesn't need it. He completely *****ed Moss.
Watch the playbook breakdown of the Ravens game by NFL Network. You can see Moss is seldom doubled. Reed is occasionally rolled onto his side, but plenty of times Moss couldn't even beat Foxworth 1 on 1.
This is a pretty funny statement. Sure we'll all take the year we won the superbowl... in HINDSIGHT. Anyone who thinks going into a season with the 2007 team doesn't have a higher chance of winning the SB, well I dunno what to tell ya.
If I throw a coin 5 times hard off the wall and get heads 5 times that doesn't mean throwing the coin hard off the wall makes heads a more likely outcome than tails.
Wait what?
2007 was the best team we have ever seen. It was a fluke that we lost. I don't care that we didn't win it all that year, I still feel like that was the best team I ever saw play. I know some of you will say "you can't be the best if you don't win it all". And that sounds good and all, but simply isn't always true.
The point is, this isn't 2007 or 2004. It's 2010, so we need to adapt to WHAT WE HAVE. And WE DON'T HAVE A DOMINATE DEFENSE RIGHT NOW LIKE WE DID IN 2004, so we can't play like it's 2004, we have to have a better offense.
They only stopped doubling him when it was 24-0 and they started pinning their ears back and playing loose coverage. That's when Moss starting catching the underneath stuff.
Bold-faced lie, and I suppose the OL gave Brady all the time in the world too.
No one else is stretching the field, do you think the safety is not shading Moss every snap? Revis' DC even said they weren't playing hardly any man-0.
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Vs one living in the fanboy football of 2007, a season that as December played on it became apparent that fantasy football had a big fat Achilles heel.
The "top QB in football" has shown us 3 times that he does not need stats wideouts to win rings. Sorry you missed those seasons. Of course we need WR help, just not a locker room cancer and not a prima. Spend the effort protecting The Franchise and continuing to add to that young D.
You and others have claimed in the past Moss was tripled in that game b/c of the lack of a threat across from him.
Foxworth played press man against him, and on some occasions there was a safety shading Moss' side of the field, and on other plays it was man to man with Reed playing centerfield. The OL struggled a lot no one will deny that, but Foxworth shut down Moss without much help on a lot of plays. Yet the excuses will continue to be made by fans for Moss.
No one in the league plays man-0. And on plays with 1 safety playing CF, I'd actually think Rhodes would shading more towards Lito's side because he was abysmal and got toasted a lot more often. Moss had a ton of trouble getting of the jam of Revis, and he could not separate from him or outrun him. The Jets probably could have played man-0 on Moss if they wanted to. That's how good Revis is and how ineffective he makes Moss.
The thing I hate about Moss is how easily he can be taken out of a game at times.
Against the best corner in the league like Revis I can understand it. But against a guy like Foxworth, who is an average CB, Moss should not have these kind of difficulties. Yes their pass rush combined with our OL had an effect, but fact is Moss did nothing all game until picking up garbage yards at the end of the game.
I hate how when teams get physical with him and jam/bump him at the line he struggles to get going.
We'll obviously never see eye to eye on this. I don't buy the "no one else is stretching the field" thought process. It's moot to keep going back and forth.
Regardless, I think we can both agree that we want Moss to have a great year in 2010 and help the Pats make a deep run in the playoffs.
EXCEPT that adding aholes won't make us better.
Those bolded parts are crazy. Who says Marshall can be a 15-20 TD a year player? And there is no way Welker is faster then Edelman.
he caught 10 last year with kyle orton. 20 is a bit high. but 15 a year is entirely reasonable with brady throwing him the football.