Key Feature of the NEW CBA

[Miguel]

I think that's largely been looked at as a joke.

These have been the cap limits during the CBA.

2005 $85,500,000
2004 $80,582,000
2003 $75,007,000
2002 $71,100,000
2001 $67,400,000
2000 $62,172,000
1999 $58,353,000
1998 $52,388,000
1997 $41,450,000
1996 $40,777,000
1995 $37,100,000
1994 $34,600,000

using the information available at
http://asp.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/salaries/totalpayroll.aspx?year=2004

you will be hard pressed to find one team that over the course of several years that did not spend as much as the total cap amount for those years.

http://www.nflpa.org/PDFs/Shared/NFL_Economics_Primer_April_2002.pdf
IMO, pages 52 through 61 pretty much destroy your argument

 

[maverick4]

re:

It is AMAZING how much the NFL has grown in the past 15 years.

So much money being thrown around in TV and tickets and merchandise...

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[JoeSixPat]

Originally Posted by JoeSixPat
I think that's largely been looked at as a joke.

These have been the cap limits during the CBA.

2005 $85,500,000
2004 $80,582,000
2003 $75,007,000
2002 $71,100,000
2001 $67,400,000
2000 $62,172,000
1999 $58,353,000
1998 $52,388,000
1997 $41,450,000
1996 $40,777,000
1995 $37,100,000
1994 $34,600,000

using the information available at
http://asp.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/salaries/totalpayroll.aspx?year=2004

you will be hard pressed to find one team that over the course of several years that did not spend as much as the total cap amount for those years.

http://www.nflpa.org/PDFs/Shared/NFL_Economics_Primer_April_2002.pdf
IMO, pages 52 through 61 pretty much destroy your argument

Except we were talking about the MINIMUM cap as the joke.

How much time have we spent discussing the MINIMUM cap in past years?

None if I recall correctly. Which is why I termed it a joke.

Its been a non issue because every team had an incentive to spend up to the cap MAXIMUM which you've illustrated. I don't think anyone's suggested that's a joke.

Now with the Cap rising to levels well above and beyond a team's revenue, baring a revenue sharing agreement that has yet to be worked out, there's potential to see major differences between what teams are able to spend.

If the Colts created a system that allowed them to spend $20 million a season more than the Pats we'd be crying foul.

I don't think that such a system would be good for the sport, even if it benefits the Patriots - but others are entitled to their opinion.

 

[Pats726]

One wonders how the MIMIMUM will be now..THAT has been in place for a lng time...maybe in the future it will come into play more..but money may NOT be everything..like in the MLB.. I doubt there will be that big a difference in the NFL...maybe a growing delta..but still as compared in other sports. And what others have never talked about was what would have happened in an uncapped year..there was NO minimum..and owners could have low balled salaries and profited. SO much different with the cap.

 

[NBPatsFan]

Slightly off topic, but does anybody know how (if any) the new CBA will affect rookie salaries? I'd heard a while back that they were looking at capping rookie salaries as those top few picks are quickly escalating out of control.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Slightly off topic, but does anybody know how (if any) the new CBA will affect rookie salaries? I'd heard a while back that they were looking at capping rookie salaries as those top few picks are quickly escalating out of control.

Rumor was this issue was dropped. It makes logical sense to do so, and would likely benefit the existing veterans but apparently the agents lobbied hard against it as it would eliminate their necessity.


Back to the subject of a cap floor potentially being as important as a ceiling, a cap floor is only an issue if the owners don't have a revenue sharing agreement for all the money factored into the cap equation.

If they are equally sharing whatever "Total Football Revenue" turns out to be, having a Cap floor is as much a red herring as it is now.

But if the Cap equation is based on the average Total Football Revenue - and that Revenue is not equally shared, than some teams have more ability to spend than others.

I guess we'll have to wait and see, but again, this has been THE biggest issue that needs to be dealt with, and I've not heard any indication that the owners themselves have reached an accord - only that the NFLPA has decided to stay out of that fight and go along with a CBA that infuses more money into the cap.