Jet Fan Twitter source: Pats to shop Welker

[blackglass3]

Re: Credible Twitter source: Pats to shop Welker

Not happening anytime soon, remember no player trading for the draft pick this season until a new CBA is in place.

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[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Re: Credible Twitter source: Pats to shop Welker

Here's a few things.

First, IB is a credible source. He does not break fake stories because he is a Jets fan. But a credible source these days means someone who thinks he is right. Bob is not always right; in fact, he's wrong quite a bit. I'm sure he did heard this rumor from an inside source, although who knows if it is true or false.

Second, Edelman might not be able to play a sixteen game schedule. People don't realize how much of a physical beating Welker takes and gets right back up. Wes has much better hands and much more toughness than Edelman.

The only way I see the Pats trading Welker is if they really don't think they're in the same ballpark for an extension. It would be a real shame and I really hope it's not true. WW is a huge bargain for his salary, even just for one more year. Additionally, the guy is a winner and irreplaceable player.

Finally, I heard that there is some smoke about the real reason for benching Welker. A few people were saying that it was more than just the foot comments.

 

[D-Money]

Re: Credible Twitter source: Pats to shop Welker

The guy has been Brady's security blanket.This team needs some players on the outside.

 

[Danielbaron1]

Re: Credible Twitter source: Pats to shop Welker

The offense is a sort to medium passing game.

Why is Wes not a fit for that?

I was thinking the same thing. did you see how long it took us to drive the ball on the jets when were losing by 11. I say keep welker and get a big tall reciever that can stretch the field. I like how jackson goes up to get the ball, while tate waits for the ball to come to him. tate can actually be a good slot. Taylor price is who I am excited to see. he looked super fast when he was playing against the dolphins! I wouldn't mind bringing back moss as long as he is not asking for a big salary. he may not be the player he once was but at least he will take revis off welker and branch and then opening things for hernandez and gronk. I liked moss as a decoy. I don't like how it seemed that brady would have a knack for always throwing deep to moss no matter how many people were sticking him.

 

[stcjones]

Re: Credible Twitter source: Pats to shop Welker

This would be a stupid decision.

I agree with u....welker has been the ultimate patriot and can and will do anything for thus team. If the pats get another top shelf WR that can stretch the field....welks production will go through roof again.....I guess if a #1 is on table and they are worried about welker's long term durability...maybe...but I hope he is here rest if his career....

 

[RayClay]

Re: Credible Twitter source: Pats to shop Welker

First step in being credible, is having an actual name. Writing about, or working for a football team would help, but being an actual verifiable human is essential IMO.

 

[Rob0729]

Re: Credible Twitter source: Pats to shop Welker

I don't know. I think I will wait for that Patriots' insider who posts on the Patriots ESPN message board to independent, credible verification.

I'm pretty sure Incarcerated Bob had Brandon Marshall going to the Jets this past offseason too. Here is one he got on the money:

A man on Twitter by the handle of Incarcerated Bob, is reporting that according to inside sources, the New York Jets will release Braylon Edwards before next Sunday Night's game against the Miami Dolphins.

Incarcerated Bob says that he breaks news faster than the mainstream media, we'll see.

Incarcerated Bob reports Jets will release Braylon Edwards

Here's another one where he correctly broke that LeBron James would be a Knick:

RealGM • View topic - Incarcerated Bob reports Lebron will be a Knick

 

[Uncle Rico]

Re: Credible Twitter source: Pats to shop Welker

..
Finally, I heard that there is some smoke about the real reason for benching Welker. A few people were saying that it was more than just the foot comments.

What kind of "more"?

 

[Ring 6]

Re: Credible Twitter source: Pats to shop Welker

Not saying it's crap, but take it with a grain of sand. If I read correctly, this guy also said Carmello Anthony to the Nets was a done deal. Yeah, not so much: Nets walk away from Carmelo Anthony trade | ProBasketballTalk

You can say it, its crap

 

[letekro]

Re: Credible Twitter source: Pats to shop Welker

Since he got injured I've been saying he won't get another contract here, not with Edelman ready to slide into the role at a fraction of the cost. Might as well get something for him. I WOULD NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES TRADE HIM WITHIN THE CONFERENCE.

 

[Uncle Rico]

Re: Credible Twitter source: Pats to shop Welker

Could the Patriots decide to trade Welker rather than extend his contract?

Yes, that is a distinct possibility.



Could the Patriots decide to extend Welker and keep him beyond 2011?

Yes, that is a distinct possibility.



Is Incarcerated Bob a credible source?

No, that is highly unlikely.

Pretty much covers it.

One way that this could make sense (and I'm not giving "Bob" credit here because anyone can speculate) is what this board has discussed, need for a "stretch the field" receiver. Pretty safe to say that with Welker, Branch, Edelman, Gronk and Hernandez, the short to intermediate thing is covered. Add Tate and Slater with their ST value and then Price and ... who you gonna move and how? Deion's not going anywhere and ST benefits give Tate and Slater some advantage (even if Tate really didn't do much as KR after his two TDs).

 

[Uncle Rico]

Re: Credible Twitter source: Pats to shop Welker

Since he got injured I've been saying he won't get another contract here, not with Edelman ready to slide into the role at a fraction of the cost. Might as well get something for him. I WOULD NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES TRADE HIM WITHIN THE CONFERENCE.

Rams could probably use receivers.

 

[Keyser Söze]

Re: Credible Twitter source: Pats to shop Welker

Trade him to the Jets for a 6th rounder.

 

[PATSNUTme]

Re: Credible Twitter source: Pats to shop Welker

And Rapoport in response to someone else on Twitter:

"Yeah, whatever. Kinda dumb. He's been wrong on about 800 things."


Twitter

So that makes him as credible as Borges or Felger.

 

[Sciz]

Re: Credible Twitter source: Pats to shop Welker

The offense is a sort to medium passing game.

Why is Wes not a fit for that?

He's an undersized slot receiver who specializes in quick cuts over the middle. The problem is that in a 2TE base offense, there's always at least one other player on the field who is just as good at that. I love Welker as a slot receiver, but I think he can be upgraded when it comes to going out wide.

 

[Sciz]

Re: Credible Twitter source: Pats to shop Welker

Rams could probably use receivers.

They've got Danny Amendola. You know, the other undrafted slot receiver from Texas Tech.

 

[Uncle Rico]

Re: Credible Twitter source: Pats to shop Welker

So that makes him as credible as Borges or Felger.

No argument there.

 

[Deus Irae]

Re: Credible Twitter source: Pats to shop Welker

He's an undersized slot receiver who specializes in quick cuts over the middle. The problem is that in a 2TE base offense, there's always at least one other player on the field who is just as good at that. I love Welker as a slot receiver, but I think he can be upgraded when it comes to going out wide.

Welker is the best in the league at making the short, quick cuts to the edge and into the middle. There is no player on the field who's going to be as good as him at doing so.

Again, Hernandez does not and and, indeed, cannot, do what Welker does.

 

[Sciz]

Re: Credible Twitter source: Pats to shop Welker

Welker is the best in the league at making the short, quick cuts to the edge and into the middle. There is no player on the field who's going to be as good as him at doing so.

Again, Hernandez does not and and, indeed, cannot, do what Welker does.

If we assume a 2TE formation (which the Pats used way more than any other team this season), then there's a corner on Welker and a linebacker or safety on Hernandez. Those are pretty comparable matchups. If it's Gronk and Crump on the field, the Gronk is also pretty good at getting yards over the middle, just for pretty much the completely opposite reason than Welker (being big and tall).

 

[Snake Eyes]

Re: Credible Twitter source: Pats to shop Welker

If we assume a 2TE formation (which the Pats used way more than any other team this season), then there's a corner on Welker and a linebacker or safety on Hernandez. Those are pretty comparable matchups. If it's Gronk and Crump on the field, the Gronk is also pretty good at getting yards over the middle, just for pretty much the completely opposite reason than Welker (being big and tall).

Why would you assume that formation? We use it, sure, but it seems kinda foolish to get rid of your ability to effectively use formations other than that.