Keegs
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Let me tell you this if Tom Brady and Bill Belichick can turn Grossman into a good quarterback God can hand over his duties to these two.
ha nice.:singing:
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Let me tell you this if Tom Brady and Bill Belichick can turn Grossman into a good quarterback God can hand over his duties to these two.
yep, didn't think anyone had the sack to agree with me.
I'm convinced there are a few people out there who just don't have the balls to post it on an anonymous internet message board (for whatever reason)
I could care less if you people agree with me or not, i just think it's ridiculous that you are all assuming that a QB can't learn from Tom Brady or BB and play better on this team.
I've said many things in the past that people on this board whined about, went crazy over and said i was an idiot. So i could care less who agrees with me. Time and time again i've been right about my ideas and the threads usually get deleted.
I just think people don't have th balls on here to post what they really think.
Why is everyone so down on Cassel? Seems to me that once he gets in the rhythm of a game he is solid. I'm really not worried about the backup position until Cassel's contract is up.
Its a matter of money Keegs. Grossman would want more money than the backup position is budgeted for. He could be a backup sure, but for millions less, you get someone who is also quite capable of doing the job.
I'm not so sure about that.
Grossman has proven to be erratic and injury prone. How much money can he possibly expect?
It could be a bad system for him and bad luck, or he could just suck in general.
I just refuse to believe that he wouldn't improve on this team.
I am quite bullish on Guttierez, but we also have David Greene on the PS I believe. Rex Grossman is like Dave Wannestadt--he's a QB that you wish upon your enemy.
Actually, for a while there we were quite optimistic about Cassel. Then we saw him play.
Does anyone actually think that if Cassel was not a capable back up BB would keep him around? Why would he? He's released more high profile players than Cassel.
BB is always trying to improve the team. At a positions such as QB, he would bring in someone better if he thought Cassel was not capable.
It's not such a bad question and does deserve some thought, even though my initial reaction is OMG no.
But
Lets examine the positives:
For the better part of last season (first 8 games or so) Grossman was playing very very well and considered a lock for the pro-bowl and even being mentioned as a possible MVP. So we know he has moxie and mechanics.
He has a big arm, possibly stronger than Brady's and when he is on his game pretty accurate.
He has fire and guts, proven on the many comebacks from bad games.
Seems to have the backing of his team mates, even when things are not going well (maybe there are more blown coverages which expose him than we can tell).
He's still young and ambitious, but is not likely to get a starter's job on anything other than a scrub team.
Now the negatives:
Inconsistency, he can play exceedingly well on one game (or even a half) and then come out playing pop warner (poorly) the next.
Tries to make the big play instead of taking what the defense gives him. A long drive full of short yardage is not his style.
Lacks vision too many times. Sometimes he appears to have the nous to scan the field, measure the defense and make his play, and then others when he almost rushes his check downs and panics by throwing into deep coverage.
Lacks patience, partly covered above, but instead of being cautious when his game is not firing on all cylinders he assumes that all his skills will return the next play. Summing up he doesn't play within himself.
Over-confident, which probably amplifies and accelerates all the negatives.
So back to Keeg's question - would he merit being a backup to TB next year?
It will of course depend on money, and even though he cant get a starter job on a good team, will likely be looking for relatively big bucks.
Can he learn patience? Probably and sitting behind TB,watching and learning would help him become a better player.
Could he throw to Randy, Ben, Jabar and Donte on deep routes? Absolutely
Could he throw to Wes, Kevin, Laurence and Kyle in the slot or flats? Most of the time, but depends on how he developes his patience.
Can he learn to view the field better? I am not sure as vision seems to be a gift of nature rather than nurture and would have to say no.
Summing up he is good in parts, and may get better in parts. I very much doubt that he would ever become an elite QB or even top 10, the vision and patience is lacking. Is he worth paying a few million over a couple of years until we know what we have with Guttierez, or would we be better sticking with Cassel until 2008? Possibly but I also think that Brady would prefer Cassel and in the end it is all about chemistry and upsides.
I am still not sold on Cassel, its those happy feet, but I still prefer him over Sorgi and most other backups (even more than some starters). There would have to be a bigger reason to bring in Grossman other than replacing Cassel, and making the big play doesnt quite cut it.
OK, I think a lot of fans who post here are self-absorbed nitwits. How's that for balls...