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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Not sure about that, when cancelling out picks of ours and theirs that are equal we "only" have an extra 1,2,2,3,5 compared to them; oh, OK, screwed :rocker:So basically, the Jets are again screwed as far as depth is concerned.
Sorry, the 5th rounder for Holmes was in the last draft not this upcoming one, my mistake.The Jets have picks in each round except for 2,7 (Cromartie, Kevin O'Connell).
The Jets have picks in each round except for 2,7 (Cromartie, Kevin O'Connell).
Their big issue next year is going to be resigning Free Agents in 2011. All of these guys are UFA.
K Nick Folk
P Steve Weatherford
QB Kellen Clemens
FB Tony Richardson
WR Braylon Edwards
WR Santonio Holmes
WR/KR Brad Smith
T Wayne Hunter
C/G Robert Turner
DE Shaun Ellis
DE Trevor Pryce
ILB David Harris
ILB Lance Laury
CB Antonio Cromartie
CB Drew Coleman
SS James Ihedigbo
FS Brodney Pool
FS Eric Smith
I can see alot of these guys going elsewhere next year for more money because the Jets can't afford to pay for them. In 2011 the Jets have 36 players signed to contracts that equal about $110.5 Mil in Cap Money. So if a Salary Cap comes back they are in a world of hurt. Conversly the Pats have 45 players signed for next year at $98 Mil in Cap Money. So not only are we getting more draft picks we are set up financially to get Free Agents as well.
So basically, the Jets are again screwed as far as depth is concerned. I wish I had that list comparing the backups in the AFC East. The Jets had UDFAs as primary backups for like 3 positions.
The Jets have picks in each round except for 2,7 (Cromartie, Kevin O'Connell).
Their big issue next year is going to be resigning Free Agents in 2011. All of these guys are UFA.
K Nick Folk
P Steve Weatherford
QB Kellen Clemens
FB Tony Richardson
WR Braylon Edwards
WR Santonio Holmes
WR/KR Brad Smith
T Wayne Hunter
C/G Robert Turner
DE Shaun Ellis
DE Trevor Pryce
ILB David Harris
ILB Lance Laury
CB Antonio Cromartie
CB Drew Coleman
SS James Ihedigbo
FS Brodney Pool
FS Eric Smith
I can see alot of these guys going elsewhere next year for more money because the Jets can't afford to pay for them. In 2011 the Jets have 36 players signed to contracts that equal about $110.5 Mil in Cap Money. So if a Salary Cap comes back they are in a world of hurt. Conversly the Pats have 45 players signed for next year at $98 Mil in Cap Money. So not only are we getting more draft picks we are set up financially to get Free Agents as well.
So basically, the Jets are again screwed as far as depth is concerned. I wish I had that list comparing the backups in the AFC East. The Jets had UDFAs as primary backups for like 3 positions.
The Jets have picks in each round except for 2,7 (Cromartie, Kevin O'Connell).
Their big issue next year is going to be resigning Free Agents in 2011. All of these guys are UFA.
K Nick Folk
P Steve Weatherford
QB Kellen Clemens
FB Tony Richardson
WR Braylon Edwards
WR Santonio Holmes
WR/KR Brad Smith
T Wayne Hunter
C/G Robert Turner
DE Shaun Ellis
DE Trevor Pryce
ILB David Harris
ILB Lance Laury
CB Antonio Cromartie
CB Drew Coleman
SS James Ihedigbo
FS Brodney Pool
FS Eric Smith
I can see alot of these guys going elsewhere next year for more money because the Jets can't afford to pay for them. In 2011 the Jets have 36 players signed to contracts that equal about $110.5 Mil in Cap Money. So if a Salary Cap comes back they are in a world of hurt. Conversly the Pats have 45 players signed for next year at $98 Mil in Cap Money. So not only are we getting more draft picks we are set up financially to get Free Agents as well.
Conversly the Pats have 45 players signed for next year at $98 Mil in Cap Money.
I just did a count on Miguel's page and the Pats do not have 45 players signed for next year. The Pats only have 39 players under contract for next season. For whatever reason, Miguel's page isn't fully updated as he still has Maroney, Crable, McKenzie, and Wheatley listed as being part of the Pats. He also has Steve Maneri and Pierre Woods listed twice. Now, they do have 9 players who will be ERFA unless the rules change. They also have 1 player who will be an RFA, providing the rules don't change. And they have 3 players (Shun White, Eric Kettani, and Tyree Barnes) who are on the Military Reserve List and will be eligible for contracts as well.
And let's not pretend like the Pats don't have some big names who are going to be free agents. Matt Light. BenJarvus Green-Ellis, and Logan Mankins. Some others who have proven to be very effective include Pierre Woods, Jarrod Page, Tracy White, and Kevin Faulk.
While the Pats are in a slightly better position than the Jets, lets not pretend like it's night and day when it's not.
I just did a count on Miguel's page and the Pats do not have 45 players signed for next year. The Pats only have 39 players under contract for next season. For whatever reason, Miguel's page isn't fully updated as he still has Maroney, Crable, McKenzie, and Wheatley listed as being part of the Pats. He also has Steve Maneri and Pierre Woods listed twice. Now, they do have 9 players who will be ERFA unless the rules change. They also have 1 player who will be an RFA, providing the rules don't change. And they have 3 players (Shun White, Eric Kettani, and Tyree Barnes) who are on the Military Reserve List and will be eligible for contracts as well.
And let's not pretend like the Pats don't have some big names who are going to be free agents. Matt Light. BenJarvus Green-Ellis, and Logan Mankins. Some others who have proven to be very effective include Pierre Woods, Jarrod Page, Tracy White, and Kevin Faulk.
While the Pats are in a slightly better position than the Jets, lets not pretend like it's night and day when it's not.
The Jets have pushed all of their chips to the middle of the table and have gone all in on this season. If it works and they come away with the Lombardi (puke) then it was a good move. If it fails and they don't get the Lombardi, they are another year deep without a Super Bowl appearance and are now looking at a re-building period without the suitable draft picks to do it.
I did use Miguel's page as a start to get my list The reason Maneri and Woods are listed twice is because they have been on the team more than once this year and each instance counts for Cap purposes. That's also why you see Moss, Maroney etc still on there because they still count against the cap. His list is a little bit out of date though.
My list does assume a return to the 4 years for RFA status. This year is the only year it reverted to 6 years and that does not carry going forward.
It also does not count Light, BJGE, or Mankins and Woods actually is signed next year because he signed a 2 year deal a few weeks ago.
I don't have access to it right now but I will post it later and include ERFA/RFA at the bottom.
I've been following Miguel's cap pages for years and understand them better than most.
It should be 41. I missed Ty Warren and Leigh Bodden previously (and I edited my previous post accordingly).
Brady, Koppen, Mayo, Wilfork, Welker, Kaczur, TBC, Sanders, Wright, Neal, Gostkowski, Crumpler, Meriweather, Chung, McCourtey, Butler, Brace, Guyton, Ninkovich, Connolly, Gronkowski, LeVoir, Vollmer, Cunningham, Wilhite, Spikes, Slater, Tate, Price, Hernandez, Pryor, Edelman, Hoyer, Mesko, Deaderick, Fletcher, Love, Woods, Woodhead, Bodden, T. Warren.
ERFA: Arrington, Barrett, Brown, Lockett, Ohrnberger, Wendell, Richard, Weston
Players who are on the practice squad have their contracts terminated at the end of the year and are free agents unless they are given a futures contract.
PS: Maneri, Turner, L. Washington, T. Carter, Ro. Ventrone, Austin, C. Butler, J. Crompton
The 4 other players I have are Deion Branch, Sergio Brown, Kade Weston, and Rich Ohrnberger.
Branch lowered his 2011 salary to match what Welker was making.
Brown was signed to a 4 year deal off the practice squad.
Weston signed a 4 year deal and he went on IR, his salary was just reduced this year and he doesn't get a season accrued for next year for salary purposes so he will still be at $320,000.
Ohrnberger signed an undisclosed deal off the PS on Sept 29th but was originally signed through 2012. So I think it's safe to assume it will be for a similar length due to the Logan Mankins uncertainty. It was actually smart of them to release him and then sign him back because all his Signing Bonus money ($338,000) counts against 2010.
Here's my list of FA
RFA - Wendell, BJGE, Arrington, Barrett
ERFA - Lockett, Richard
FA - Light, Mankins, Taylor, Morris, Faulk, G. Warren, Ojinnaka, White, Page, McGowan