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  1. pheenix11

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    I remember one day in February 2005 getting into the shower and thinking to myself that after 3 championships in 4 years that it was going to be a great next few years as we three-peated and won an ungodly amount of championships. I would have bet my life then and there that Peyton Manning or his stupid little brother would never even see a Superbowl let alone win one. I thought it would last forever, why wouldn't it?

    Now after the heartbreak of 2006 and the even more devastating heartbreak of 2007 and seeing Brady hurt in 2008 and the playoffs of last year I have come to realize just how special even 1 championship is. I realize now what we had back then. And I want it back, even just 1, just 1 more to really savor, like that last M&M in the bag.

    I heard Parcells say something similar in his documentary, and Brady has as well, the next one is always the best one.

    I know as far as being a fan, I will never take it for granted again. I promise, just one more guys. I just want to get this bad taste from 2007 out of my mouth.
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    Funny, I felt the same way. A few days after XXXIX, a friend called me and asked "Does it get old watching your team win a championship?". Back then, it almost was. I was happy that 3rd win gave them the Dynasty label, but I was more expecting them to win than excited for them to win that day.

    I kick myself now for not enjoying it more. I think my feelings were back then "No one can stop this...they might go 6 for 7!". And after the 2006 in Indy, and the 2007 garbage; I only appreciate the wins now. The Browns game really reinforced that this year also...don't EXPECT to win anything. Just enjoy when they do.

    I really want another banner hung in Foxboro, but I will appreciate and enjoy every win this team gives us. My days of "expecting" them are over.
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    I have enjoyed every single one. Each one is a little different with the first being the "extremely" special one.

    I for one am looking forward to the next 2 or 3 more. I mean think about it, if this team is able to win it this year, what is going to stop them from winning 1 or 2 more in the next 5 years?
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    I'm greedy i want at least two more before Brady retires and i think its possible.
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    Totally agree. Winning another championship would be very, very special.
    Particularly since the expectations going into this year were kind of low to begin with. So many changes on defense, so many young players, so many uncertainties.
    But this team is really looking to be one of the special ones to remember. I really hope they bring home the hardware this time.
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    :agree: :D
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    Yup as a fan I became complacent after 2004 and even in 2007. Never again. I can definitely see how it happens to players though, it is far too easy to read the press clippings and believe everything you read.

    Only thing that scares me this year is that everyone is jumping on their bandwagon now. Back in 2003 & 2004 despite back to back 14-2 records the so called experts were still picking Indy & Pitt. This year that doesn't seem likely.
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    At least one more is needed to shut up the spygate haters.

    Now I am wondering about what we missed in the last two years with respect to Brady's knee injury, which everyone says really takes two years to be 100%. Could we have done it in 2008 with Brady instead of Cassel? I have to think we would have made the playoffs and could have beaten the Steelers. Last year if he played at this level we might avoid the bad Ravens matchup. Or maybe the injury made him hungrier and even more focused & mature

    Part of me feels that the defensive overhaul was too incomplete either year, though.

    I am enjoying this run and this team has become my favorite since 2001. It would be hard to top that one.
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    I don't have a certain number in mind but I want a new banner to be hung in Foxboro every September. If it doesn't happen, I understand that you can't win every year but a SB win is all I want every season.
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    Absolutely agree.... I'd love to see Brady and BB have the most Super Bowls each and together, for that matter.
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    I agree wholeheartedly. Winning in 2007 was a "given", so much so that I travelled halfway across North America on a whim to see the "last home game before the undefeated season" in the AFC championship game. Never will I assume like that again. 2007 was gut wrenching and if they happen to win it this year, it will be a sweet one since it's been a number of years since the last. Not quite as sweet as the first, but sweet nonetheless.
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    I want 1 more ATLEAST before Brady retires!
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    Me too, I saw Brady's perfect game in Miami that year and then I went up to Foxboro for the Jets game in December then back again for the AFCCG as well (man was that a cold day). I wanted to be a witness to history, it's almost like the Superbowl was anticlimactic. And in the end it was for us.

    I love what I'm seeing this year, feels like the "old days" all over again, hell we even have Deion back!
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    After the last Super Bowl win, one of the media folks pointed out that a true "dynasty" involves multiple generations. In football terms, I took that to mean continued winning after big turnover.

    Well, here we are. Most of the core of those 'Dynasty I' teams have moved on. (we all know the two most obvious exceptions). A new generation is here and there's more coming. I'm ready for 'Dynasty II.'
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    This is that year. We won't be stopped unless Pittsburgh stops us.
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    Would like to see a few more, not just one, along with one post Tom Brady...
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    That's not going to be for at least another 7 years. He's got at least a few more super bowl runs in him. We need more than 1 more. Don't depress me with that talk
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    Agreed. I see no reason why the Pats, with the young talent they have now fortified with a couple GOATs at QB and coach, can't go on to win another 3 in the next 4 years.
    I certainly don't expect it, but I don't discount it either!
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    Ditto. I also want Brady to go out as the undisputed GOAT w/ more SB rings than anyone.
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    I always want to see my teams win a championship - Be it the Celtics (17x), Patriots (XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX), Red Sox (2004 and 2007), Bruins (1970 and 1972), Rensselear Hockey (1985), Oregon Ducks Football (for my Daughter - 2011), Kansas Jayhawks Basketball (2008) ........

    This is a career for me.
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    Great thread. Thanks.

    I see the beginning of wisdom for many in these comments.

    As someone who has known some of the darkest days of this franchise and who is a bit of a student of NFL history, I think I always understood how remarkable 2001, 03, 04, as well 06 and 07 were and tried to point it out to folks when it seemed they thought that every year would bring another.

    Five trips to the conference championship, four to the SB and three rings in seven years! Of course, nothing can ever take away the feelings we shared when Tyree made his catch and we just kind of knew that a TD and loss were now inevitable. But, still, it was a run that people will still be talking about 25 years from now.

    I'm starting to feel that this might be another special year; all the more special because so few of us (and my hat is off to those of you who saw it coming!) predicted it.

    I think that Bob Kraft has it right when he sets the objective for the organization that the team will be "competitive" for the playoffs every year. He knows how precious SB's are and that saying (like Dan Snyder and Wrecks Cryin') that you're going to win the SB every year is nonsense.

    Anyway, a little perspective for those who still need it. In the history of the SB era:

    Franchises with six or more SB appearances: Cowboys (8), Steelers (7), Patriots and Broncos (6). That's it. 44 years, 88 "slots" in the big game and those four teams have filled 27 of them (over 30%)!
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    First, to answer the question: yes, one more this year. But in truth, I think this team will win even > 1 over the next 5 years.

    If we look back at the other great dynasties, I don't think any of them were as close to winning so many in one decade as this team:

    - 2002: SB champ 1

    - 2003: missed playoffs on tiebreaker, Brady shoulder injury, team still building

    - 2004: SB champ 2, dominant 14-2

    - 2005: SB champ 3, dominant 14-2

    - 2006: lost at Denver in divisional round. Were controlling the game until a horrid PI call against Assante, then the crazy 100 yd int return & Watson play. Mediocre Pitt team beats Seahawks in SB. Had we gotten past Denver, very good chance we would have won that year.

    - 2007: lost AFCC at Indy, who then beat a poor Bears team in the SB. Definitely should have beaten Indy, an amazing number of calls and luck went against us in the 2nd half. That one should be on the Patriots mantle without question.

    - 2008: lost SB to Giants after going 18-0. Again, Gods not on our side, another trophy that should definitely have NE engraved on it. So at this point, should have had either 6 straight, or at least 5 of the past 6.

    - 2009: went 11-5 under Cassell, missed playoffs on tiebreaker - 1st time in 30 years an 11-5 team missed the playoffs. Eventual SB winner is a good Steelers team over Ariz. This one is less clear than the previous 3 years, but if Brady isn't on IR, I think NE wins that year. Also, they were playing very well at year's end under Cassell and had a decent chance had they qualified (which they should have).

    - 2010: lost in wildcard round to Ravens. Brady's first season back after surgery, team not playing well at end of season. Wouldn't have beaten the Saints even if by some miracle they made it to the SB.

    So we should already have 5 or 6 championships if not for insanely bad fortune. And now we're loaded up and ready to take no prisoners. This young team over the next few seasons will avenge and win at least a couple of more, making it at least 5 total over a 12-13 year span.
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    After everything we've been through between 2007, Brady's injury, spygate, all the hoopla...I completely agree with the OP, IF we win another ring, it will feel like the first one all over again.

    And while I know nothing ever beats the first ring, in some ways, there will be a satisfaction that might even trump SB36.

    IF we ever get there again. I don't take that for granted. We may look great now, but we could get knocked out in the AFCDG and you can't be shocked - its football, any given Sunday
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    I want them to win 3 of the next 4, or at least 2 of the next 4
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    I want us to win the Super Bowl every year. I'd love to see us get to 5 so TFB had more than any other QB.

    But I'm just tryin to enjoy watching TFB play right now, cuz a player like that is very VERY rare. To have him playing for my favorite team on the planet is a blessing from the football Gods.
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    I want us to win the Super Bowl every year. I'd love to see us get to 5 so TFB had more than any other QB.

    But I'm just tryin to enjoy watching TFB play right now, cuz a player like that is very VERY rare. To have him playing for my favorite team on the planet is a blessing from the football Gods.
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    Like someone else said, I want a SB just to get all the Spygate BS to go away, or at least be silenced. It would also be great to be the team of the decade again :D. Also, a 4th SB title would give us the 4th most titles (Steelers, Cowboys, Niners with 6, 5, and 5 respectively). It would also give us the 2nd most appearances (Tied with Squeelers). So we could at least shut some other fans up (Giants for example).
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    2001 was great for multiple reasons. First of all it was such a surprise; after Bledsoe got hurt I figured the Pats were about a three-win team. The first championship was so unexpected; it finally put to rest the disappointment of the two previous SB defeats, the Ben Dreith game, and the fiascos of the one and two win seasons.

    2003 was nice because it shut people up about 2001 being a fluke. 2004 was sweet because back-to-back and three in four years was something that nobody thought could happen with the combination of free agency and the salary cap.

    After that I figured anything else was just gravy. With 32 teams in the league, a fan would on average see three championships in his whole lifetime. However after SB42 and all the idiots that keep repeating "what have they won since then" in some ridiculous attempt to discredit those seasons, one more would be very nice to savor.

    This season has been great because just like 2001, it has been so unexpected. I'm enjoying each game, each win, more than any in recent history - maybe even ever. I know I'm getting ahead of myself, maybe getting a little but greedy - but yes, I agree: I want to savor one more championship too.
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    I'm greedy.... I'll take the pats owing the next decade like they owned the 2000-2009 decade...
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