Has the NFL lost the PR battle?

[Soul_Survivor88]

Darren Rovell ‏@darrenrovell 46m46 minutes ago
The NFL has lost the PR battle in "DeflateGate." 1st "Who Do You Side With?" poll is from 7/28. 2nd is today

 

[SVN]

This will change if the NFL wins the ruling. These voters will only look at the bottomline result then

 

[NJPatsfan26]

Not going to change a Damn thing if the NFL wins today.

 

[Oswlek]

Darren Rovell ‏@darrenrovell 46m46 minutes ago
The NFL has lost the PR battle in "DeflateGate." 1st "Who Do You Side With?" poll is from 7/28. 2nd is today

This is actually remarkable considering that most relevant scientific data and Patriot responses were already long out by 7/28. People's opinions have changed almost entirely due to NFL missteps and lies.

 

[dales804]

And the NFL will be fine once games start. If Brady isn't playing, though, I'm not watching.

 

[Betterthanmost]

Where was that poll taken? Geographical area will help.

 

[BradyFTW!]

This is actually remarkable considering that most relevant scientific data and Patriot responses were already long out by 7/28. People's opinions have changed almost entirely due to NFL missteps and lies.

The 54% of people who were pro-NFL on 7/28 aren't the types who are swayed by facts. Their beliefs are informed entirely by headlines. They'll go wherever the headlines take them, and the headlines are what really changed between 7/28 and today. Which means that if the award isn't vacated, I'd bet most/all of them swing right back over to the NFL row.

Alternately, if the award is vacated we'll be left with a solid estimate of the percentage of people who hate Brady so much that it overrides literally everything else.

 

[Buchanty]

Just proof of the growing power of the instant soundbite. Immediate reaction is easier than considered analysis; sadly critical thinking it is as much used today as typewriters.

 

[patsfan13]

This will change if the NFL wins the ruling. These voters will only look at the bottomline result then

If Brady wins numbers will crater for NFL.

This could affect appeal, getting ruling overturned is long shot owners may tell Goody to cut his losses, make it go away.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I think the ratings were improved from yesterday based on the better picture drawn by the sketch artist.

 

[WinstonSmith]

The tide has officially turned, but unfortunately it crested just beyond 495.

 

[NashuaPats]

An article in today's Financial Post (a Canadian bisiness newspaper) crushes the NFL on the science. Written by Steve McIntyre

http://business.financialpost.com/f...-science-could-have-wrongly-smeared-tom-brady

"Cheap pressure gauges – and confusion about basic science – could have wrongly smeared Tom Brady as an NFL cheat

Playing out on the sports pages this summer has been yet another example of distorted pseudo-science – the Deflategate scandal – an incident which, in my opinion, would not have been an issue without defective scientific and statistical analysis by Exponent, the NFL’s technical consultants, and defective peer review by Daniel Marlow of Princeton. The NFL’s suspension of Tom Brady is under appeal and a decision is expected on Sept. 4, but the appeal will not turn on the underlying science and statistics, but on procedural issues of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. But any fair-minded person ought to be repulsed (though perhaps not surprised) that the decision will rely in any way on pseudo science."....

 

[patsfan13]

McIntyre had previous written an open letter to Princeton prof who endorsed Exponent pointing out errors.

 

[turkeyneck]

An article in today's Financial Post (a Canadian bisiness newspaper) crushes the NFL on the science. Written by Steve McIntyre

http://business.financialpost.com/f...-science-could-have-wrongly-smeared-tom-brady

"Cheap pressure gauges – and confusion about basic science – could have wrongly smeared Tom Brady as an NFL cheat

Playing out on the sports pages this summer has been yet another example of distorted pseudo-science – the Deflategate scandal – an incident which, in my opinion, would not have been an issue without defective scientific and statistical analysis by Exponent, the NFL’s technical consultants, and defective peer review by Daniel Marlow of Princeton. The NFL’s suspension of Tom Brady is under appeal and a decision is expected on Sept. 4, but the appeal will not turn on the underlying science and statistics, but on procedural issues of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. But any fair-minded person ought to be repulsed (though perhaps not surprised) that the decision will rely in any way on pseudo science."....

Glad to see the highlighted part called out. Marlow was lazy and sloppy and deserves to have his name publicly linked to this mess.

 

[Danger Zone]

It’s wildly improbable that a Patriot deflation scheme would exactly match the bias between referee Anderson’s two gauges

(or that they would attempt deflation as inconsequential as 0.38 psi.) The amount is alternatively explained by referee Anderson using the Logo gauge for these Patriot balls and later inattentively using the Non-Logo gauge for Colt balls – just as NFL officials did at half-time.

This.

 

[AzorianPats]

Didnt the PR guy from the NFL just got fired?

 

[YOUGOTMOSSED]

The 54% of people who were pro-NFL on 7/28 aren't the types who are swayed by facts. Their beliefs are informed entirely by headlines. They'll go wherever the headlines take them, and the headlines are what really changed between 7/28 and today. Which means that if the award isn't vacated, I'd bet most/all of them swing right back over to the NFL row.

Alternately, if the award is vacated we'll be left with a solid estimate of the percentage of people who hate Brady so much that it overrides literally everything else.

That's every news story ever. After a long day at work, John Q public comes home, glances at the headline, and just takes it at face value.

The folks that care enough about the details and have the time to research this fully are few and far between. Mostly "men of leisure" and the unemployed.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

This is actually remarkable considering that most relevant scientific data and Patriot responses were already long out by 7/28. People's opinions have changed almost entirely due to NFL missteps and lies.

I think a few things came together. Mainly, many in the media took another (or a first!) look at the facts after Berman ripped the NFL case apart in the first court session. Then I think the inherent progressive instincts of the majority of the MSM took over and this became a "labor-management" story to many of them. Remember that the"journalists " at places like HSPN and NFLN and SI are viewed as hacks by "real" reporters.

 

[Deus Irae]

The PR battle isn't over yet. A Brady loss in court would change the numbers, for example.

 

[h0c2000]

For the most part, people will need to decide which side they hate more, Tom Brady and by extension the Patriots, or Roger Goodell. It's entirely an image battle and the NFL is out of bullets.