Haley
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If I had to pick one, I would have picked Gropp even before knowing what we've seen now. Not because I thought he would be any great shakes, but I just felt like Manziel had Ryan Leaf written all over him, so I would have gone with option B by default.
I think it is because of the complete lack of maturity but ryan leaf has been the guy that Manziel reminds me the most of, it certainly isn't build or skill set. I think Johnny Football is going to be Johnny Bust. Didn't want him before the draft and certainly don't want him now.
People are all focuses on the bad with JFF. He was amazing against a great Alabama defense two years in a row. I would draft JFF in this scenario then trade him. He would never want to be a backup for several years behind a great and durable QB.
Just to get a picture of the full span of possible outcomes, he's also pretty reminiscent of young Brett Favre.
You mean a midget version of Favre.
Moving the goalposts a bit there: if size is part of the equation, then comparing him to 6'5" Ryan Leaf probably wasn't the best idea. He's a far worse size comp than Favre. Frankly, if we're going by size/style, Manziel's obvious best comp is Russell Wilson, although that doesn't work for other reasons.
I made it clear that size and skillset weren't what i was comparing him to, i was referring to his complete lack of maturity and said so.
Yada yada Manziel doesn't fit the system yada yada yada character issues yada yada yada too short yada yada . . .
Still, want.
As was I, which is why I don't really get the point of your last response. Making a comp that dismisses size and focuses on maturity, then dismissing my comp on the same grounds because the size doesn't match... not a lot of sense made there.
Manziel is the Anti-Patriot (selfishness and look-at-me behavior).