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  1. Iron Helmet

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    Sorry to rehash, but its a quiet day in Patsville....So, after much speculation and theories run amuck in the media, everything boils down to this: You can use video to steal signals, just not from the field (you need to do it from the coaches booth).

    How idiotic is this? Essentially, you can break into my house and steal my things legally if you come in the back door, but not if you come in a window.

    It burns me up every time I think of the fact that we lost a draft pick to this BULL SH!T. Thanks Godell for understanding the how the league works, has worked in the past, your rules, and how to the media works. You may have singlehandedly blown a irreparable hole in the hull of the ship that is the NFL. What is your salary? Donate it to charity.
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    Re: Godell is an Idiot

    That is the best analogy I've heard to date! This thing must be put to bed....and SOON!
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    Re: Godell is an Idiot

    The rule is that you can't tape coaches. You can watch with binoculars and take notes from the box, but you can't use video.
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    Re: Godell is an Idiot

    You are wrong.

    That is not the rule.

    The rule says you can't film from an area that's not enclosed by at least 3 walls.
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    Re: Godell is an Idiot

    Wrong. You can tape coaches; you just can't tape them from the sideline.
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    No, this is a common misconception. You cannot tape coaches. Period.
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    Cite your reference please.
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    Sorry, you're wrong.
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    N.F.L. policy prohibits videotaping opposing coaches giving signals. Last year, the N.F.L.’s executive vice president of football operations sent a memo to teams reminding them of the rule.
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    You don't know what you're talking about.

    Prove it!
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    There is no such rule.
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    The official NFL rule regarding coaching video states, "No video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches' booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game."

    And here's the memo: “Videotaping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent’s offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches’ booth, in the locker room or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game.”
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    Wrong. You misread the memo.

    "Video taping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches' booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game."

    The issue is location.

    Anderson could have written, Videotaping of any type, but limited to taping of opponents' offensive or defensive signals, checking out cheerleaders behinds, cloud formations is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches' booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game."

    This memo says you can't tape signals from certain locations, regardless of content. If Anderson want to say no taping of signals anywhere, he didn't.
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    Mike Reiss: The rules specifically state that the signals of coaches can not be videotaped, and the Patriots crossed that line.
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    Show me where Mike Reiss said that.
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    The NFL doesn't publish its code of conduct, therefore there is nothing to be cited. What has been cited is the videotaping procedure rules, not the rules regarding what content can be taped.
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    Man, this rule is really confusing, but I'll give it a shot:

    NFL rules state "no video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches' booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game." They also say all video for coaching purposes must be shot from locations "enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead."

    So, you can't video from these locations (booth, field), but YOU CAN VIDEO for coaching purposes, as long as you are enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead. My guess is that you could easily focus the camera (the one in the enclosed space) on the person calling the signals and be within the rules.

    That was re-emphasized in a memo sent Sept. 6 to NFL head coaches and general managers. In it, Ray Anderson, the league's executive vice president of football operations wrote: "Videotaping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches' booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game."

    This re-emphasis simply tells me the same thing...don't record from the locations we have prohibited, and anywhere else you can have at the film during a game...BUT YOU CAN VIDEO for coaching purposes, as long as you are enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead. I am guessing being enclosed with a roof makes in game transmission of data harder (versus being in the coaches booth or on the field).

    SO YES...YOU CAN VIDEO COACHES SIGNALS.
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    What? Nothing to be cited? What has been cited? code of conduct?

    I and others have cited and quoted Anderson's memo. If you have a question about it, feel free to add.
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