ESPN (<---yes , I know) Comments on lack of big game experience

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  1. Phoenix111

    Phoenix111 Banned

    I normally just turn the other cheek and laugh at what ESPN says, but this time I had to laugh and share with those that didn't see it. On their show "Around the Horn", one of the panelists, Bill Plashcke was the lone man picking the Cowboys. Now thats fine, he is entitled to an opinion. However, his sticking point was the fact that this Pats team has no big/close game experience and they won't now how to react in that environment on the road. He feels that these large wins are going to serve as a disadvantage essentially.

    It's beyond laughable. Yeah, these guys have never sniffed a big/close game. Just that most of the defense has played in 3 Super Bowls that were each decided by three points. Oh yeah, and that Brady guy with his two SB MVP's and numerous comeback wins. I guess BB and the coaching staff might have some experience too, have to check on that. In closing, we knew this, but ESPN has degenerated into a sad state in a lot of areas.
  2. Boston Boxer

    Boston Boxer U.S. Air Force Retired Supporter

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    i think Plashcke is the one they pay to come on and say off the wall stupid crap. Obviously he is way off, because i am pretty sure that the Pats core has faced a couple of big games on the road before.
  3. CowboysFan

    CowboysFan Rookie

    Welp, Plashcke picked the Bears over Packers last week and he was right.

    The media has patriots fever and has dubbed you 16-0.

    You can't fault him for looking through the bias. Only 4 people I can find picked the Cowboys. Emmitt Smith, Michael Wilbon, Dan Le Batard, and Jamie Dukes. Everyone else is smitten.

    Your in the weakest division in football (combined 7-13) and have been playing weak teams (who experienced severe injuries early in the game while playing you Jamal Lewis, JP Losman, 2 Bengals Starting LBs). Can't blame him for questioning you...I expect him to get 10 bonus points on Monday's episode...
  4. patsox23

    patsox23 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    You know what's fun that you should try? READING THE POST YOU'RE RESPONDING TO. He's not complaining about Plaschke picking the Cowboys. He's talking about him using the absurd idea that the Pats lack experience in big/close games.
  5. CowboysFan

    CowboysFan Rookie

    Plaschke statement rang such truth that I didn't feel it needed justification.

    Is it not true? I'm not a huge patriots fan as yourself, but how often has your team rallied from behind this year? When was the last time the patriots faced adversity? Was it the AFC Championship game where the colts rallied from a 21-6 deficit and ended up 32 points up in the 2nd half? I'm sorry if I don't recall the patriots glory days from 2 years ago.
  6. N.Eman

    N.Eman Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    It just seems sad but yet the perfect fuel for the Pats to prove everyone wrong that they are here to dominate and keep dominating. Other teams fans are just jealous and with itchy trigger fingers to find way to bring us down. Say whatever, but the bottom line is Pats have the most experience that any team in the NFL on closing a game, adapting to the game mood and making high ranked teams look bad. Romo and the rest of the Cowkids are marked for a beating of the year.
  7. marty

    marty In the Starting Line-Up

    That comment is almost as stupid as the one I've heard lately that "Brady is not used to getting hit/pressured"! Have they not watched him in the past 6yrs?
  8. SVN

    SVN Hall of Fame Poster

    so this game would been easier for the pats if dallas had blown out buffalo because they wouldnt have the exp of coming from behind ???
    and you dont have to 2 yrs . last yrs chargers game was a good enough rally win.
    i agree there have been no close games this yr but this team has had many big games in its tenure here and most of the core guys have been through it and know to handle it unlike the cowboys who take time off to laminate messages to reporters thinking of the other 81 and all that stuff .Shows which team has the experience handling a situation and so called big week.
  9. Wildo7

    Wildo7 Totally Full of It

    Tony Reali has a tendency to mute people before giving them a chance to explain themselves, but Plaschke's point was logically fallacious. He was basically arguing that becaue the Pats hadn't stunk enough to make a walk over game close, that that somehow puts them at a disadvantage. The whole, this team is a different team than last team mantra fails here, because, for the majority of players, it's the same team. And they've had more primetime, big game wins than any other team out there. Plus, Around the Horn is a show that places emphasis on playing devil's advocate and assuming an asinine position for the sake of it, then shouting about it as if you really believe it. Actually that sums up punditry in general.
  10. Wildo7

    Wildo7 Totally Full of It

    I think they take turns playing the silly one. Watch next time. Lately Woody Paige has been visibly frustrated with that role so they changed it to Plaschke. But sometimes it's Cowlishaw or Mariotti (who actually is a fool). It's all a totally disingenuous farse.
  11. CowboysFan

    CowboysFan Rookie

    We have experience in dealing with big games, every week is a big game. Being a Cowboy guarantees that the opponents give 110%. The Bills gave an unbelievable effort, last week was their superbowl. Haven't been on prime time in 13 years. They arn't going anywhere this year, but if they can knock out the 4-0 Cowboys and ruin the Patriots 5-0 vs 5-0 "Duel in Dallas", they would love it. Not to mention the Superbowl losses and former coach revenge. It was a tough game but it was nice to rally.

    Not only that the NFC east is one of the most competitive divisions so theres always pressure. Unlike being in a weak division...

    Example, last year you were 0-2 vs the colts. We beat them, they came to our house 9-0 and were undefeated... That was a big game.

    Your team is good I will admit that. I am not a homer. The Patriots offensive unit is better than the Cowboys, but the Cowboys offense is no laughing matter either. The Cowboys are ranked #1 in the NFL in yards, and Patriots are #2. I will give the benefit of doubt to the Patriots as they have historically proven themselves as the better, more consistent, team.

    Defensively, as a unit, the Cowboys are light years better than the Patriots. Statistically, the Patriots allow the #2 least yards per game. The Cowboys defense is loaded with play makers and can be considered a top 5 defense. The NFL ranks the Cowboys as #8 but that is in regards to the yards allowed. But yards don't win games.

    The Patriots have only punted 11 times, but in those punts they are ranked #30 in Net punting, 31.6, the Cowboys are 18th in Net punting, 36.9. AVG punting is a different story the Cowboys are #3 and the Patriots are #32, poor punting coverage explains this huge difference for the Cowboys. On Kick returns the Patriots are superior (the cowboys have allowed 2 kick returns for a TD).

    I think this game will be closer than most expect, if not Cowboys dominating by approximately 17 points.

    edit: Around the horn is a great show!
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2007
  12. Arrrr

    Arrrr Banned

    haha, light years better? Is that why Eli Manning was able to light up the score board the entire night against you? What do you think will happen when it's Tom Brady and Randy Moss instead of lil manning and plaxico burress?
  13. CowboysFan

    CowboysFan Rookie

    Every week since week one our defense has been improving, holding opposing offenses to less and less points. Also defensively we have only given up 3 point in the last 2 weeks. All other points were scored on the offense and special teams, a trend we will look to decrease this Sunday. I'm sure that stat won't last against you, but its fun to tout.
  14. PatsSteve1

    PatsSteve1 In the Starting Line-Up

    And after this week, it'll make 6 weak teams the Patriots have beaten.
  15. CowboysFan

    CowboysFan Rookie

    Yes, because 5-1 is weak... What will you do next call Romo a Homo? How bout try smart things like those bears fans, "Only things in Texas are steers and queers."

    Looking for intellectual challenging football conversation. I respect the patriots, and its likely Cowboys can end up losing, but I don't see it as a blowout like the media does. Its also very likely the Cowboys might not even win their division its not as clear cut yet, but I don't think its plausible to say the Cowboys are a weak team.
  16. Seels

    Seels On the Game Day Roster

    This sure is quite a feat against two of the worst offenses in the NFL.

    Please stop posting.
  17. Seels

    Seels On the Game Day Roster

    I don't know how you expect to find this when you come right out and say "The Cowboys D is light years ahead of the Patriots"
  18. PatsSteve1

    PatsSteve1 In the Starting Line-Up

    I never said anything like that. You brought up the sorry conversation. The Patriots, Colts and even Steelers are easily superior to the Boys and any other NFC team. There's a good reason why most people are picking the Patriots and the Patriots are favored. It isn't bias. It's looking at 2 teams and seeing which one is clearly better. Any of those 3 AFC teams will get the same pregame pick because they are better teams.
  19. PatsSteve1

    PatsSteve1 In the Starting Line-Up

    Then apparently your too young to know the Cowboys once had glory years.
    Really they did at one time.
  20. patsox23

    patsox23 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    1) Yes, teams in the 2000's don't "get up" for playing the Pats at all. Genius.

    2) "Defensively, as a unit the Cowboys are light years BETTER than the Patriots?" LOL! Ya know what else? My dog lifts weights. The color of the sky is gravy. Wristband is my favorite shape. And telephones taste good.

    3) I'll give you all of my worldly possessions and my eventual first-born son if the Cowboys beat the Patriots by 17 points.

    4) Apologies, but is this post a joke? Or are you just like...jet-fan-level DELUSIONAL?
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