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That was Greg Wesley, their SS, not Warfield.dryheat44 said:Heck, by the logic prevailing on some of the threads here, Warfield picked off the best QB in the NFL three times in one game. He must be a top cornerback..
drew4008 said:That was Greg Wesley, their SS, not Warfield.
drew4008 said:That was Greg Wesley, their SS, not Warfield.
bucky said:Let's see. He's a recovering alcoholic. He's coming off his worst year as a pro. He's coming from a defense that has sucked for the past several years. And he already has 1 league suspension for substance abuse. Add to that the fact that he supposedly has lapses in concentration and he occasionaly makes bad judgements on the field and he signed a vet minimum contract with no signing bonus. Souds like he's got his hands full just trying to crack the roster.
cubedoggy said:These also could be a number of reasons why he will make an effort to harness his abilities here; the Pats tend to be vigilant when it comes to "problem children."
Ex. 1: Christian Peter
Ex. 2: Kenyatta Jones
...and, on the other side, Ex. 3: Corey Dillon
Keegs said:Can someone explain to me why everybody on here feels that this guy won't be starting? Is hobbs a better corner? is samuel? is gaY?
How do you know?
shakadave said:At times like this I like to reach for my Sporting News Scouting Guide. The most recent (summer 2005) edition ranks them....
1. Samuel (27)
2. Warfield (37)
3. Gay (72)
4. Hobbs (16th on the rookie CB list)
(overall NFL CB ranking in parentheses)
But Warfield has aged another year, Samuel and Gay have matured another year, but played either questionably-at-times or not at all (IR). And Hobbs is so new it's hard to say.... I guess I need
(1) The 2006 Guide to come out, but better yet
(2) A training camp!
P.S. Law (3)
PatsChick87 said:Dave - Law was ranked (3) after missing half of 2004? Makes one wonder how they do their rankings when players hit IR? Any ideas?
Warfield's stats don't look that bad but they don't tell the whole story. He struggled in multiple games, especially in the middle of the season, but got better later in the season.
One thing that stands out about Warfield's numbers is his completion percentage. He ranked 3rd in completion percentage, but had a lot of help from 20 missed passes. Even with his completion percentage, Warfield gave up 7.3 yards per attempt, which placed tied for 35th. This clearly shows that when Warfield was beaten, he was beaten for a lot of yards.
What makes his completion percentage even odder is that Warfield ranked 70th in soft coverage percentage. It looks very much like Warfield played relatively tight at the line at the snap, but didn't react quickly enough to the ball in the air, or tried to play more position defense rather than physically disrupting the receiver. This type of play was probably responsible for his nearly 30-yard per completion average on deep passes. If Warfield got into a good position, he stopped you. If he didn't get into good position, he couldn't fight his way back through it and was beaten.
Even though his completion percentage was excellent, I still don't think Eric Warfield is very good playing on an island, and he's often left on one by the Chiefs scheme. If those 20 missed passes are converted into completions next year, his numbers will start to match his performance. He's simply not a very good tight man coverage CB.
patpatriot said:This is a guys with some limitations which can be compensated for by proper positioning. Belli has been lauded by many players in that he "puts them in a position to win". I think he can make Warfield into a very productive player. Remember, he played with a *sucky* defensive line and a so-so linebacker corps. The big thing with Warfield is "can he stay off the booze"? Very tough to do. Much harder than staying off other (illegal) drugs. So, we can't build any defensive schemes that depend on him because he's not dependable.