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Do we really have that much faith in the Jets beating Miami??

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  1. Sean Pa Patriot

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    Im happy today, but can we really ask this jets team that has done nothing in the last month to beat miami?? Farve looks washed up, no doubt.. I mean Kc moved the ball on miami, SF moved the ball. I think Miami could be beat.. But here is the kicker, and this is how the nfl works.. As I type this Den SD is the flex game.. so if miami /nyj is moved to 4 the ravens and pats game will be decieded by then.. The Jets will have nothing to play for, since they are eliminated.. Could Mangini stick it to us, or would he be doing it to himself and get fired... Interesting week,and Im glad its going until past christmas... Exciting last month no doubt...
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    The jets suck and it's hard to imagine them actually playing a good game next week, but I have to hope.
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    The Jets still have an outside shot of getting in, so they have to try. I think they can beat the Dolphins, it's not insurmountable.
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    I do the jets suck but im still not convinced miami is a very good team and are very beatable.
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    Have you watched NFL football at any time over the last, say 20 or 30 or 40 years???

    The game is at home, Favre is not exactly the worst QB in football. The Jets are very capable of winning a big game at the Meadowlands in December. And Miami isnt exactly the 1978 Pittsburgh Steelers.
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    The Dolphins barely beat the Chiefs today. The two teams went back and forth all game. Anything can happen next Sunday.
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    Does anyone know Miami's overall record at NEW YORK in the month of December?

    I know the past doesn't matter but I still believe in jinxes.
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    I'm honestly hoping for Jacksonville to somehow upset the Ravens and for the Pats to beat the Bills. I don't care about how the Pats get in, as #3 or #6.

    I don't have faith when it comes to the New Jersey Bretts beating the Fins. I fully expect Pennington to hand the Bretts their ass on a platter as the last FU from the football gods to the Jests fanbase.
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    Their last road game against the Jets in December was in 1999, which the Dolphins lost.
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    I think the league will have the pats & jets game on concurrently to avoid this scenario and then ravens at 4. This should maximize the drama as ravens will likely be win-and-in, as unlikely they back in with loss.
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    Wow its been that long huh.

    I have a feeling the overall record is very bad for the dolphins up in NY in the month of december.
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    I have zero faith in the Jets. Here is why:

    1.) Poor coaching. We saw some of the bonehead mistakes Mangini calls today. The biggest has been his desire not to run the ball especially when the Jets had that surge in the middle of the year not on the arm of Favre, but the legs of Jones and Washington.
    2.) The Jets defense has not been the same since Jenkins was injured in the Titans game.
    3.) I think Favre is done and thinking more about heading back to Mississippi than playing his best. Granted he will have a change of heart in the offseason again.
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    Yes, that would make the most sense. And it would make for some incredible TV.
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    Maybe it will be Favre's last game and the team will play so he can go out with a win.
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    As long as the game isn't starting later in the day and the Jets playoff hopes are still alive, I think it's a decent chance. Miami hasn't exactly been world beaters, they've struggled against some pretty bad teams. The meadowlands is a very tough place to play and it will be a playoff atmosphere. I'm not putting my full faith in it but it can definately happen.
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    The Jests should not lose this one at home in probably frosty conditions....against a team that has barely beat....well everyone recently....

    They have alot to play for.......if they lose they are OUT......IF they lose....that big, fat tub of dog sh#t AKA Man-gina....AKA Eric "the Rat" is most likely going to get fired......I think NY steps up and beats Miami well next week.......GO PATS!
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    Any historians among us?
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    There two things I know for certain, my wife will have a headache when we go to bed tonight, and the Jets WILL win next week.
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    To me, the first question that needs to be asked is: would the league ever move the Jets game to 4pm? If they do then 1) the NFL, as an organization, has no sense of competitive spirit, and 2) the Jets, having most likely been eliminated at that point, would lay down like the dogs they are.

    If that isn't the case then I truly see a very competitive game between them and Miami. Neither team is a world-beater, as we saw today, and with the game at the Meadowlands there's at least a slight home field advantage. I'm cautiously optimistic.

    However, before ANY of this can really be discussed the Pats have to take care of their own business.
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    I have a bad memory of Favre with the Packers laying down against the Jets in 2002 and with the Jets win knocking the Pats out of the Playoffs. I don't have a good feeling about him next week.
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    That was a little different. The Packers had the playoffs locked and that game meant nothing to them. Ironically, that was the last time the Pats weren't in the playoffs.
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    Right. They were playing for the 2-seed, though, but had no interest. But that game only meant something to the Jets if the Pats won at 1. If Miami won, they would have clinched the division.

    So if they wanted to put the Pats game at 4, that would be the same basic situation as 2002. That would be fair.
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    Given the embarassing loss, Mangini and the Jets will return home and knock off the Fins. IMO. :D

    I am more concerned about us not losing focus against the Bills and completing this amazing season with a great W.

    Glad that the Bills won because I would rather have us play them coming off a win vs. a close loss at home.
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    the refs will be told to do all they can to help favre.
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    My thoughts exactly. Favre feels bad for losing but this really isnt his team . Does he really care ? It was a PSL stunt anyway.
    Mangini i honestly thought was a good secondary coach for us and was a decent HC but boy has his regressed all season.
    Above all, jets have no passing game like SF like thigpen and the chiefs to really threaten miami and miami doesnt make stupid mistakes.
    but conversly if miami lost and jets won today who would you have faith in winning next week jets or fins ? i would say jets then because they kinda own miami usually.
    i just want us to win and knock the jets off at the least in any case.
    EDIT:not to mention they have 6+ hr flight back which doesnt help.
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    really. Bills havent beaten us ina while so they will up for it anyway.The almost beat the jets and beat the broncos today. It will be a hard game for the pats. iIam hoping it stays at 1pm and doesnt move to 4pm for a loud crazy buffalo crowd.
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    Jest is 9-2 in non west coast games this year. Am I confident in them ? No. But it's absolutely realistic they could win. Very much so.
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    Given the close game, I feel that the Bills would have been pissed off had they lost today and could have more motivation to prove us a point.

    But your point that they will be up for it since they have not beaten us for quite some time is well taken.

    What I am hoping for is the removal of any extra motivation due to their W today :)
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    I, personally, have a TON of faith in the Jets winning this game. Why not? It's at home and they have owned Miami this decade. Besides, what REALLY good teams has Miami played and beaten, besides us? Going back to week 8:

    BUF v. MIA: W 25-16
    MIA at DEN: W 26-17
    SEA at MIA: W 21-19
    OAK at MIA: W 17-15
    NE at MIA: L 28-48
    MIA at STL: W 16-12
    MIA at BUF: W 16-3
    SF at MIA: W 14-9
    MIA at KC: W 38-31

    Miami has BARELY beaten the dregs of the NFL and their schedule is about as cake as it gets through 17 weeks. They are 10-5 but they aren't exactly the next coming of the '72 version of the team. They can easily go into New York next week and get their asses handed to them on a silver platter.
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    Of course nobody has faith in the Jets--when you have to rely on other teams, it sucks, but you want as many options as possible. So this is one more.

    FWIW, the weather should be close to 50 degrees, so the old man that Favre has become who gets all cold and achy shouldn't make an appearance. Also, as much as everyone thinks Pennington will come on strong, I think it's at least as likely that going back to where he failed so often will make him fail again.

    Years and years ago, the Jets would win, but the Pats would then lose. That's not the way anymore, though. So yeah, I think the Jets win, and the Pats win, and win the division. How about that.
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