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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Cmon Shmess, you should know by now that SS isn't even a position in the Pats defensive system. By definition the "SS" always plays to the "strong side" of the formation, or the wide field, or some other designation. The Pats don't often flop their Safeties.Ken, we NEED an impact SS and TE to complement Gronk VERY BADLY.
To me, going into the season with Dennard and Ryan at CB is not as big a worry as those other two positions.
Looking around the forum at how many people want the Pats to push their chips in the middle of the table and go all in, you can tell that we're creeping up on a decade of the last Super Bowl win. The Pats have the cap room and some major needs with good football players at said positions of need having made their money and are now looking to sign with a contender (like Allen). On top of that, they have their own FA's to sign. If the team is stagnant in the next couple of days, it will be disappointing. I didn't go into today expecting much outside of maybe Edelman resigning, though, so I will be easily impressed.
As for the "sky is falling" crowd, name the other team in the league that is going to get 3 multiple all pro players in the off season (4 if you count Vince).
we had a monster team in the 70's...Ben dreith stopped us from our first Super Bowl IMO...I will die believing that
Free agency hasn't even officially opened and people are losing their minds about Edelman. Nice thread idea, but I think there are more noes than yeses.
Free agency hasn't even officially opened and people are losing their minds about Edelman. Nice thread idea, but I think there are more noes than yeses.
Yeah, but most of them will come around as soon as the Pats sign Jared Allen, DeMarcus Ware, Julius Peppers, Alex Mack, Jarius Byrd and Darrelle Revis.
You're gonna be wicked pissed
Christopher Price @cpriceNFL
It Is What It Is >> Report: Julian Edelman will test free-agent market after not reaching deal with Pats It Is What It Is » Report: Julian Edelman will test free-agent market after not reaching deal with Patriots … via @WEEI
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Edelman hasn't ruled out a return to the Patriots. But again, the market will determine how feasible that is. Sides plan to talk more.
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Julian Edelman will indeed the free agent market. The Patriots' offer fell short of his expectations, so the market will now dictate things.
My issue with Kontra is not so much with the list, but the overall mood of the post, which make it seem like the Pats have tons of holes on their team, and are on the verge of falling off a talent precipice. Which is simply not the case.Ken, i think you are conflating the legion of the Miserable who are never satisfied with anything with those who are simply stating their obvious needs as they go into the offseason. The list Kontra proviided is right on the money, and i don't think anyone other than a misguided few really believes they are going to go after the biggest names in free agency as the answer to their needs. personally I expect the released veterans to be where Belichick focuses his energy, and not the free agent marketplace minus those players. Peppers, Allen, Lance Moore etc.... are the kind of signings we should be looking for, and not Whitner, Decker, Micheal johnson etc....
Free agency hasn't even officially opened and people are losing their minds about Edelman. Nice thread idea, but I think there are more noes than yeses.
You're gonna be wicked pissed
Christopher Price @cpriceNFL
It Is What It Is >> Report: Julian Edelman will test free-agent market after not reaching deal with Pats It Is What It Is » Report: Julian Edelman will test free-agent market after not reaching deal with Patriots … via @WEEI
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Albert Breer ✔ @AlbertBreer
Edelman hasn't ruled out a return to the Patriots. But again, the market will determine how feasible that is. Sides plan to talk more.
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Albert Breer ✔ @AlbertBreer
Julian Edelman will indeed the free agent market. The Patriots' offer fell short of his expectations, so the market will now dictate things.
My issue with Kontra is not so much with the list, but the overall mood of the post, which make it seem like the Pats have tons of holes on their team, and are on the verge of falling off a talent precipice. Which is simply not the case.
Despite all the wants to upgrade, and the 4-6 positional needs to add depth, and the one "hole" at DT, the Pats are much better off than most of the 32 teams out there, most of whom would LOVE to be in our position.
So yes we need a 3rd DE, a couple of LB's, and TE's and upgrade on the interior OL, etc. There is a big difference in the 3 categories of want, need, and have to have. My impression was the Kontra intentionally blurred those lines in order to make his post as negative as it could be. There is nothing wrong with that, btw. We have all skewed the facts a bit, on occasion, in order to make the data better fit our POV.
I just wanted point out "the sky isn't falling", and there is a long way to go from now and Labor Day, And MOST importantly, what the Pats do or do not do in the next 2 weeks isn't going to make or break their 2014 season.
omg pats aren't talking to jimmy graham..**** this