Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by PaulNEPats, Jul 24, 2007.
Always enjoyed watching him play for the Pats.
'bout time, we knew it was coming anyways
May be the most successful player to have left the Patriots to be as successful on another team during Krafts ownership.
Congratulations on a wonderful HOF career should go out to the Pittsburgh Panther RB with leg problems coming out of college that no one wanted to take a chance on except for Parcells keen eye back then.
Curtis is beloved by fans in both Boston and NY, a feat no other athlete in my memory has achieved. That is a tribute to his sincere, humble yet fiercely competitive character. Equally at ease on the mean streets of the 'Burgh as in the art galleries of NY, where he became one of the most notable private collectors in the sports world, Curtis has long and successful careers behind and ahead of him. Martin is Canton-bound, without question.
Shame he couldn't go out with a ring on his finger (not with the Jets, of course). Hope Canton is a nice consilation prize.
Yes, would've been nice for him. Oh well. Antowain Smith gets one (by which I mean TWO) instead.
i enjoyed a lot when he was with us
a very good player, no doubt
Not sure why people like this guy so much. He's nothing but a traitor who conspired with Parcells to shaft the Pats. I'm glad he never got a chance to wear a ring.
Lay off the crack, okay? Curtis Martin was a standup guy during his time in New England. Just because he went to the Jets when he couldn't get a deal done with the Pats doesn't make him a traitor.
A truly great runner I realy enjoyed watching him carry the ball in NE. It was amazing sometimes running threw close to the entire opposing team.zig zaging as he went along. One game in particulare he reminded me of ORR skating threw a whole team. I wasn't sure we should have resigned him listening to the prospects of his groin surgery. As a jet he drove us crazy trying to stop him.
Yeah Curtis will always be my favorite ex-Patriot. Great guy off the field as well.
How soon we forget the poison pill fiasco I guess.
You probably also think Parcells is a standup guy too
Sorry he left the way he did, but he was never anything but first class with us and the Jets.
From everything I know about him, he's the type of person and competitor you'd like your son to grow up to be.
Love to see him and Dillon in the hall.
His knee injury during his last year @ Pitt caused him to drop all the way down so that the Pats could pick him. I will always remember his first 2 rushes of the Pittsburgh playoff game (i.e. fog bowl).
I wouldn't call him a traitor. He deserved the big contract that he got from the Jets. Letting Martin go was a huge mistake for the Pats.
One of the few players who left the Pats I kept watching...always played with class, AND he was with Toni Braxton - OUCH!
He wanted to go with his coach. Despite his faults and the revisionist history, Parcells inspired fierce loyalty in some players.
Huh! You must not remember what transpired back then.
The Pats didn't have a choice in letting Martin go. Martin, Parcells and Tannenbaum put together a "poison pilled" offer (6 years/$36MM IIRC) for Martin that would have meant that if the Pats matched then Martin would have become an UFA the following season. Such offers have since been disallowed by the league but by knowingly signing such an offer Martin essentially gave the Pats organization and us fans the big "F you".
For that Curtis Martin can kiss my arse.
He wasn't free to go with his coach is the problem.
It wasn't until Martin and Parcells conspired to scam the Pats organization and us fans by concocting that poison pill contract, that Martin became free to go play with his egotistical coach.
The day Martin chose to sign that illegal contract which allowed him to leave NE was the day that I lost all respect for the jackarse.
I'm with BMU and am surprised not many more are. Martin can kiss my ass.
When CM signed that poison pill contract to play for the hated NY Jets it was a major blow to a Pats franchise in disarray once again when it had just reached SB prominence. Shades of Chuck Fairbanks playoof departure or the Patriots drug scandal after the Bears SB debacle. We seemed cursed every time we rose near success. It was yet another low point for the franchise and its stalwart fans. So, this fan here sheds no tears for a guy deliberately complicit in shafting the team he roots for.
And yes, the Pats were also complicit in that they were tight with Curtis' contract.
Couldn't agree with you more.
One of Bob Kraft's few mistakes was alienating Bill Parcells in the
1996 draft by drafting Terry Glenn over his objections. This ended
up costing Bob the services of both Parcells and Curtis Martin. Bob
thought that the Pats would be better off splitting up the coaching
and general managers jobs.
In the case of Curtis Martin, he suffered an injury his last year with the
team. Andy Wasynczuk deemed the injury was too serious to make a
a large financial investment in Curtis. This is why they did not come to
an agreement before he became a restricted free agent. Andy was happy
with the #1 and #3 draft picks instead of Curtis.
Maybe Martin thought Parcells knew a little more about running a team than Bobby grier did.
Just another of the those-who-shall-never-be-mentioned-again-by-name.
If Robert Edwards hadn't blown out his knee/leg/career on the sand in Hawaii, who knows if we wouldn't be saying he had a great career as Martin's replacement at a lesser cost than if they had swallowed the poison pill and resigned Martin?? Then again, would all the other events and Lombardi's have followed???
I, for one wish him well in retirement and thank him for his service while he was a Patriot. In his position, I can't say that I would have done anything different. As some have posted in the Asante thread, he provided for his family's future and did what he thought was in his best interests....
Just my $0.02,
Good post. Too bad his loyalty to Parcells blew up in his face when Parcells dumped him three years later. Parcells cares only about Parcells. Tough lesson to learn for poor Curtis. If he had stayed, he'd have his millions and three rings. Good luck to him in the future. He was fun to watch, even as a Jet.
It's very possible that Kraft did the right thing... because if Parcells was still here, Belichick would be somewhere else.
Something to ponder.
I'm MUCH more happy with Belichick here than Parcells.
And I was a BIG Parcells fan when he was the coach here.
Hell, Belichick might not be here if Tony Simmons caught that pass against the Jets on Monday Night Football at 6-2 in 1999.
I say sign him for a day and let him retire a Patriot, just to f*** with the Jets.
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