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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.It was ridiculously evident even going into the draft that the depth at DE was woeful. We're going to have to blitz a lot now, and be creative about it. Because, without that, I honestly have no idea where the pressure is going to come from.We're going to be relying on a 6th round DII rookie for significant reps. So much for depth.
Making the playoffs then seeing what happens isn't the Patriot way either.
It was ridiculously evident even going into the draft that the depth at DE was woeful. We're going to have to blitz a lot now, and be creative about it. Because, without that, I honestly have no idea where the pressure is going to come from.
They signed Will Smith, spent a first round pick on a guy they apparently see as having DE capabilities, drafted a raw 6th rounder with elite athleticism, had a second year player and also two LBs who could edge rush in a pinch.
It may not have worked out exactly as planned, but it was hardly unaddressed. Between OL and backup QB - the former of which was a bigger need and the latter was arguably equal - it wasn't like they had a bunch of selections made at frivolous positions.
Seriously, are you a doctor? I'm wondering because i don't think anything's changed and there are two unknown sources, neither a doctor or speaking for the team, and 30 reports that are really just rehashes of those two.
I'd be curious if a medical person could at least throw out some possibilities.
Well he said he had 3 issues with this with his hip and athletes are much more prone to this tearing then the normal doofus like myself. So it very well could be an issue with the labral.
This is from Mayoclinic:
No I am not a doctor, no problem admitting that. I was only speculating on this since I have had some pretty serious issues with my right hip, knee and ankle over the last four years. I specifically had something called FAI (Femoroacetabular impingement) in my hip, you can live with it but it can be very painful or just annoying. it is considered genetic and not injury related although my doc wasn't convinced of this. I only noticed it after I healed up after shattering the top of my tib (tibial plateau fracture)to the point for which I almost lost my leg. Later got a new knee. Also broke the crap out of my ankle, another set of plates, screws and cable. My labrum was torn to **** and very painful and nothing other than surgery would fix it. Anyone that has torn they shoulder labrum knows this also. I've done a lot of research on these things. I raced off road dirt bikes in national events. Still ride for fun.
Anyway I was only speculating, just trying to give my 02 based on my experiences and what doctors told me over the last few years, 7 surgeries in 4 years. Typically muscle related hip injuries heal with rest and time, not months typically. That's why I was speculating on what it might me.
I was also clear to state that until he gets put on IR I won't believe anything we hear from the "media".
Anyway I wasn't trying to mislead anyone.
Seriously, are you a doctor? I'm wondering because i don't think anything's changed and there are two unknown sources, neither a doctor or speaking for the team, and 30 reports that are really just rehashes of those two.
I'd be curious if a medical person could at least throw out some possibilities.
Here's what we DO know about Jones' injury.
a. It wasn't bad enough to keep him off the field during the game after it happened.
b. It's a hip injury
c. Its serious enough to cost him anywhere from 4-8 games
d. The team is NEVER going to tell us anything about the injury for the next 4-8 weeks. Yet we will spend endless hours speculating about it.....for the next four to 8 weeks..
According to La Canfora:
Chandler Jones, the Patriots' top pass rushing threat and one of the key members of their defense, will not need surgery on his injured hip, according to sources with knowledge of the situation, and has been prescribed at least four weeks of rest until he can return.
He does not have a torn labrum, the sources said, and the team is very optimistic that he will be a factor for them in the stretch playoff run.
I am a physician, but not an orthopedic surgeon, and I wouldn't want to even speculate on Jones' injury without more information. Here's a nice lay overview of some common sports hip injuries:
http://www.coreperformance.com/knowledge/injury-pain/hip-injuries.html
Here's a nice powerpoint presentation discussing some of the many options to be considered in a differential diagnosis of sports hip injuries:
http://medicine.nevada.edu/Documents/unsom/statewide/echo/clinics/sports/Echo_Extra_Artic_Hip.pdf
Hip dislocations are extremely tricky, because the blood supply to the hip can be disrupted, leading to avascular necrosis (AVN) if prolonged. A disrupted blood supply causes ischemia to the hip, and if not resolved can lead to irreversible cell death and degeneration. This is what happened with Bo Jackson, who ended up needing a hip replacement. The following article has a nice lay overview, including a detailed discussion of the hip anatomy with some nice illustrations:
http://regressing.deadspin.com/could-modern-medicine-have-saved-bo-jacksons-career-1443105382
Reducing a dislocated hip generally requires general anesthesia and muscle relaxation ("paralysis"), because the surrounding muscles are so strong that it is generally not possible to get good reduction without deep anesthesia and relaxation. I've seen lots of times that 4 hulking orthopedic surgeons have struggled to reduce the hip of an emaciated little old lady who fell, without success, until proper conditions have been obtained. The Pats obviously don't release medical details, but we don't know of anything that suggests that Jones was hospitalized for this. A hip dislocation which cannot be reduced required urgent surgery to avoid the risk of AVN.
Bryan Kelly and colleagues at the Hospital for Special Surgery in New York (perhaps the pre-eminent orthopedic specialty hospital in the U.S.) surveyed the NFL Injury Surveillance System database for injuries between 1997 and 2006, and found a 3.1% incidence of hip injuries, with an average of 12.3 days lost per injury. Most injuries were minor contusions or muscle strains. Intra-articular injuries (those in the hip joint itself) were more severe, and resulted in a greater loss of playing time. The authors characterized a "sports hip triad" pattern common in the elite athlete involving labral tear, adductor strain, and rectus strain). Labral tears generally are treated with arthroscopic surgery followed by rest. We have yet to hear of Jones requiring surgery.
There are way too many possibilities to speculate what Jones' injury might be, but the hip joint is extremely complex and not to be trifled with. The last thing I would want would be to underestimate these kind of injuries and try and rush a player back. Nerve impingement, avascular necrosis, and chronic osteoarthirisis are all potential issues which could cause long term problems.
There are way too many possibilities to speculate what Jones' injury might be, but the hip joint is extremely complex and not to be trifled with. The last thing I would want would be to underestimate these kind of injuries and try and rush a player back. Nerve impingement, avascular necrosis, and chronic osteoarthirisis are all potential issues which could cause long term problems.
So no news of surgery...maybe that's a good thing? Been what 3 weeks now?
So no news of surgery...maybe that's a good thing? Been what 3 weeks now?
So, yeah, DE was pretty much unaddressed. Multiple positions of need were. That's what happens when you spend your first round pick on a rehab project and then waste your second round pick on a QB in a year you should be loading up.
Did I miss something? Was it ever expected?