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Except if you take into consideration that it is costing LESS to move up this year than in other years. At least, according to Bill Belichick.
Yeah, I know, but he asked about the chart not a prediction.

There was a rumor of a #2 and a #4 or #5 so that's probably the best guess.
 
Maybe BB will move up ahead of them and take Willis.... woudn't that be a kick in the pants to the donkeys
You never know about draft day
 
You're right, they did. But those guys are exactly it-depth. They would still love to get their hands on Willis if they could I bet.
Cousins I have a way to get around this Broncos coup
Proposed "BLOCKBUSTER" trade:

The Skins would trade their #6 to the Pats plus S Sean Taylor and CB Carlos Rogers for the Pats CB Assante Samuel, DE Marquis Hill, the Pats #24, the Pats #127 in Round 4, the Pats #202 pick in round six.

Now before "The NFL Value Chart" Police arrest me, why and how?

The Skins were willing to swap picks with the Bears at #31. The Bears wouldn't...."bite". The wanted a couple players and perhaps a 2008 pick as well. They're still talking, but CB is a bigger need for the Skins.

The franchise tag on Samuel says a signing new team would pay the Pats two first round choices. Bill Belichick doesn't want to trade Assante, but also knows that two number ones will not happen.

The Skins need a CB as they feel Carlos Rogers has digressed.

Assante was maybe a top five CB in the league in 2006.

Marquis Hill was a second round draft choice by Belichick and is 6' 6" and 300lbs. He is not going to play in front of the stud DL players the Pats have now. The Skins are desperate for a DE. This kid maybe as good as some that will be drafted but he has NFL experience and he is still young. Part of the Skins DB problem is only 19 sacks in 2006. Hill should help and can probably play DT in a 43 scheme as well.The Redskins system might be better for the 25 year old to flourish. Either that or he is a camp casualty and we get nada.

Now the Skins get back a very valuable pick in round one at #24 a decent fourth round pick at #127 and an added sixth at #202..........Three draft choices!

The Skins wanted to convert Taylor back to SS this year after the Archuleta experiment failed. In the Draft there are a wealth of SS available at #24 and perhaps even at #127. Fox started to come on and he would be the FS. There is Rouse, Gattis, Piscitelli, Wendling, Harrison, Johnson, Payne, Dahl, Stone and more.

Or #127 can be used for another pass rushing D-lineman like Bazuin (conference record for sacks), Moses or Jay Moore might be available.

Losing Holdman might have them draft a OLB like a Beason or a Bradley.

The Wild card here? Send #24 and #127 to the Bears for Briggs. After Urlacher got involved in the contract negotiations for his buddy Lance, Lance has to go.

Let's see,…..Samuel, Briggs and Hill by the beginning of Day Two in the draft would be huge for the Redskins. They are all young players.

Now to the Pats:

The Pats needed a S and Taylor would be a perfect piece to their 2007 puzzle. Belichick lets rookies sit in most cases and prefers experience. Taylor had a down year in 2006 but is a talent. The Pats would hope he can fit their system and benefit from it and become a force once more. The Pats do not play a traditional FS, SS so with the 24 year old Taylor and a healthy Rodney Harrison in the middle next year, if your a WR, up your insurance. If you’re a RB do the same. You will get popped.

Carlos Rogers, like Hill he is an enigma. Only one INT in 2006. He has been a disappointment and an underachiever. Perhaps the same thing can be said about Hill although who is going to sit in NE with that talent. The theory is that the NE system made Samuel what he was in 2006. They are hoping they can reclaim Rogers and head him in that direction. It's a gamble but he is like Samuel, only 26.

The Pats have two number ones and can keep one of those (#28) plus they pick up the number six pick in the draft. What do they do with that? ..............Patrick Willis ILB, Mississippi. The young LB that many teams covet. Bruschi is a year older as are some of the other Pats LB's. This is a very classy, talented young man.

The Pats hold first round #28 and replace hill with an upgrade at DE/OLB, the hybrid the Pats like. David Woodley would be my pick at the choice at #28 for the Pats.
. Its' all for fun and speculation but it could work.
DW Toys
 
Yeah, I know, but he asked about the chart not a prediction.

There was a rumor of a #2 and a #4 or #5 so that's probably the best guess.

Having drafted for the Broncos in the Patsfans Mock, I know that the Broncos have no fourth and fifth round picks available.

It has been alleged that on Cold Pizza, they talked about #21, #86 and a 2008 #2 going the other way, which would make sense.

But this deal has not gone down yet.
 
Cousins I have a way to get around this Broncos coup
Proposed "BLOCKBUSTER" trade:

The Skins would trade their #6 to the Pats plus S Sean Taylor and CB Carlos Rogers for the Pats CB Assante Samuel, DE Marquis Hill, the Pats #24, the Pats #127 in Round 4, the Pats #202 pick in round six.

Now before "The NFL Value Chart" Police arrest me, why and how?

The Skins were willing to swap picks with the Bears at #31. The Bears wouldn't...."bite". The wanted a couple players and perhaps a 2008 pick as well. They're still talking, but CB is a bigger need for the Skins.

The franchise tag on Samuel says a signing new team would pay the Pats two first round choices. Bill Belichick doesn't want to trade Assante, but also knows that two number ones will not happen.

The Skins need a CB as they feel Carlos Rogers has digressed.

Assante was maybe a top five CB in the league in 2006.

Marquis Hill was a second round draft choice by Belichick and is 6' 6" and 300lbs. He is not going to play in front of the stud DL players the Pats have now. The Skins are desperate for a DE. This kid maybe as good as some that will be drafted but he has NFL experience and he is still young. Part of the Skins DB problem is only 19 sacks in 2006. Hill should help and can probably play DT in a 43 scheme as well.The Redskins system might be better for the 25 year old to flourish. Either that or he is a camp casualty and we get nada.

Now the Skins get back a very valuable pick in round one at #24 a decent fourth round pick at #127 and an added sixth at #202..........Three draft choices!

The Skins wanted to convert Taylor back to SS this year after the Archuleta experiment failed. In the Draft there are a wealth of SS available at #24 and perhaps even at #127. Fox started to come on and he would be the FS. There is Rouse, Gattis, Piscitelli, Wendling, Harrison, Johnson, Payne, Dahl, Stone and more.

Or #127 can be used for another pass rushing D-lineman like Bazuin (conference record for sacks), Moses or Jay Moore might be available.

Losing Holdman might have them draft a OLB like a Beason or a Bradley.

The Wild card here? Send #24 and #127 to the Bears for Briggs. After Urlacher got involved in the contract negotiations for his buddy Lance, Lance has to go.

Let's see,…..Samuel, Briggs and Hill by the beginning of Day Two in the draft would be huge for the Redskins. They are all young players.

Now to the Pats:

The Pats needed a S and Taylor would be a perfect piece to their 2007 puzzle. Belichick lets rookies sit in most cases and prefers experience. Taylor had a down year in 2006 but is a talent. The Pats would hope he can fit their system and benefit from it and become a force once more. The Pats do not play a traditional FS, SS so with the 24 year old Taylor and a healthy Rodney Harrison in the middle next year, if your a WR, up your insurance. If you’re a RB do the same. You will get popped.

Carlos Rogers, like Hill he is an enigma. Only one INT in 2006. He has been a disappointment and an underachiever. Perhaps the same thing can be said about Hill although who is going to sit in NE with that talent. The theory is that the NE system made Samuel what he was in 2006. They are hoping they can reclaim Rogers and head him in that direction. It's a gamble but he is like Samuel, only 26.

The Pats have two number ones and can keep one of those (#28) plus they pick up the number six pick in the draft. What do they do with that? ..............Patrick Willis ILB, Mississippi. The young LB that many teams covet. Bruschi is a year older as are some of the other Pats LB's. This is a very classy, talented young man.

The Pats hold first round #28 and replace hill with an upgrade at DE/OLB, the hybrid the Pats like. David Woodley would be my pick at the choice at #28 for the Pats.
. Its' all for fun and speculation but it could work.
DW Toys

I don't know about this one DW. I don't see this happening, but thats just my opinion. I think that Redskins like Taylor and don't want to give him up, plus it seems like they'd be giving up way too much.
 
Cousins I have a way to get around this Broncos coup
Proposed "BLOCKBUSTER" trade:

The Skins would trade their #6 to the Pats plus S Sean Taylor and CB Carlos Rogers for the Pats CB Assante Samuel, DE Marquis Hill, the Pats #24, the Pats #127 in Round 4, the Pats #202 pick in round six.

Now before "The NFL Value Chart" Police arrest me, why and how?

The Skins were willing to swap picks with the Bears at #31. The Bears wouldn't...."bite". The wanted a couple players and perhaps a 2008 pick as well. They're still talking, but CB is a bigger need for the Skins.

The franchise tag on Samuel says a signing new team would pay the Pats two first round choices. Bill Belichick doesn't want to trade Assante, but also knows that two number ones will not happen.

The Skins need a CB as they feel Carlos Rogers has digressed.

Assante was maybe a top five CB in the league in 2006.

Marquis Hill was a second round draft choice by Belichick and is 6' 6" and 300lbs. He is not going to play in front of the stud DL players the Pats have now. The Skins are desperate for a DE. This kid maybe as good as some that will be drafted but he has NFL experience and he is still young. Part of the Skins DB problem is only 19 sacks in 2006. Hill should help and can probably play DT in a 43 scheme as well.The Redskins system might be better for the 25 year old to flourish. Either that or he is a camp casualty and we get nada.

Now the Skins get back a very valuable pick in round one at #24 a decent fourth round pick at #127 and an added sixth at #202..........Three draft choices!

The Skins wanted to convert Taylor back to SS this year after the Archuleta experiment failed. In the Draft there are a wealth of SS available at #24 and perhaps even at #127. Fox started to come on and he would be the FS. There is Rouse, Gattis, Piscitelli, Wendling, Harrison, Johnson, Payne, Dahl, Stone and more.

Or #127 can be used for another pass rushing D-lineman like Bazuin (conference record for sacks), Moses or Jay Moore might be available.

Losing Holdman might have them draft a OLB like a Beason or a Bradley.

The Wild card here? Send #24 and #127 to the Bears for Briggs. After Urlacher got involved in the contract negotiations for his buddy Lance, Lance has to go.

Let's see,…..Samuel, Briggs and Hill by the beginning of Day Two in the draft would be huge for the Redskins. They are all young players.

Now to the Pats:

The Pats needed a S and Taylor would be a perfect piece to their 2007 puzzle. Belichick lets rookies sit in most cases and prefers experience. Taylor had a down year in 2006 but is a talent. The Pats would hope he can fit their system and benefit from it and become a force once more. The Pats do not play a traditional FS, SS so with the 24 year old Taylor and a healthy Rodney Harrison in the middle next year, if your a WR, up your insurance. If you’re a RB do the same. You will get popped.

Carlos Rogers, like Hill he is an enigma. Only one INT in 2006. He has been a disappointment and an underachiever. Perhaps the same thing can be said about Hill although who is going to sit in NE with that talent. The theory is that the NE system made Samuel what he was in 2006. They are hoping they can reclaim Rogers and head him in that direction. It's a gamble but he is like Samuel, only 26.

The Pats have two number ones and can keep one of those (#28) plus they pick up the number six pick in the draft. What do they do with that? ..............Patrick Willis ILB, Mississippi. The young LB that many teams covet. Bruschi is a year older as are some of the other Pats LB's. This is a very classy, talented young man.

The Pats hold first round #28 and replace hill with an upgrade at DE/OLB, the hybrid the Pats like. David Woodley would be my pick at the choice at #28 for the Pats.
. Its' all for fun and speculation but it could work.
DW Toys

So, you want me to believe that the Redskins are just going to swallow the signing bonus hits from Rogers and Taylor as well as the new hit from the Samuel contract? I know Daniel Snyder is dumb, but do you really think that he's that stupid?
 
The Texans are struggling to recover from the Schaub deal. Next

year, they will be doing the same thing again.
 
So, you want me to believe that the Redskins are just going to swallow the signing bonus hits from Rogers and Taylor as well as the new hit from the Samuel contract? I know Daniel Snyder is dumb, but do you really think that he's that stupid?
Have you seen what he's done in the past and ask me how he does what he does but....This is a way he can get Briggs and Samuel and not mortgage 2008. Or at the least, pick up some draft choices. It works. Rogers and Taylor had tough years. Assante might have been a one year great season.
I respect what you say but can you tell me why it won't work/ Signing bonuses can't play and the Skins can get two quality players and move two that I am sure the Pats staff can get to play.
DW Toys
 
PFT says this is false:

POSTED 4:02 p.m. EDT, April 27, 2007

REPORT OF TEXANS-BRONCOS TRADE NOT TRUE

There's a report on a web site that posts football new snippets in small blurbs with even smaller fonts that used to get a lot more traffic than us (but no longer does) stating that the Broncos have consummated a trade with the Texans for a flip-flop of the No. 10 and No. 21 pick in the draft.

But Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that the report is false, and that the Broncos and Texans have not had a single serious discussion about swapping picks.

Schefter also says that the Broncos would never do a deal like this before the draft. That makes sense to us, since the purpose of moving up would be to get a specific guy who might or might not be there when the higher pick is used.
 
Have you seen what he's done in the past and ask me how he does what he does but....This is a way he can get Briggs and Samuel and not mortgage 2008. Or at the least, pick up some draft choices. It works. Rogers and Taylor had tough years. Assante might have been a one year great season.
I respect what you say but can you tell me why it won't work/ Signing bonuses can't play and the Skins can get two quality players and move two that I am sure the Pats staff can get to play.
DW Toys

I just told you why it won't work. Sean Taylor have 6.3 million in signing bonus proration remaining on his contract and Carlos Rogers has 7.5 million in signing proration remaining on his contract. That is 13.8 million in dead money that the Redskins would have to be willing to take against their salary cap. Now, Taylor and Rogers have a total cap hit of 5 million this year. So, that leave about 8.8 million. Then, you want them to sign Samuel and Briggs to long term contracts that will have cap impacts in the 7 to -8 million a year range, each. Lets say that the 1st year is only 6 million each. That is 12 million in new cap money. So, it would be 20.8 million in cap hits that the Skins would have to figure in. They only have about 5.6 million in cap space right now. Where do you suggest they get the other 15 million in cap money that they would need to pull off this trade?

Sorry, but from a financial stand-point, I just don't see this trade happening unless the Skins some how got Taylor and Rogers to give back some of their signing bonus money and that both players got new signing bonuses.
 
Willis. This is bad news. We don't need Denver any stronger on defense than they are.

Lord I hope the Lions take him.

That's what I predict actually. If Atlanta wants to trade up for Calvin at #2 then the Lions will select Patrick Willis at #8.
 
Adam Schefter reports that this rumor is not true.
 
Maybe BB will move up ahead of them and take Willis.... woudn't that be a kick in the pants to the donkeys
You never know about draft day



I hope not. I don't want them to trade into the top ten, and like them just where we are at #24 and #28.
 
I think Shanahan is feeling the pressure to take his team deep in the playoffs. Ownership can't be happy that they've won one playoff game in the last ten years.

And who was that win against? :eek:
 
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