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    TDs
    Brady: 197
    Montana: 141

    INTs
    Brady: 86
    Montana: 89

    Yards
    Brady: 26,446
    Montana: 24,552

    NFL MVP
    Brady: 1
    Montana: 0

    Super Bowl Championships
    Brady: 3
    Montana: 2

    Conference Championships
    Brady: 4
    Montana: 2

    Playoff Record
    Brady: 14-3
    Montana: 7-4

    Brady on a great pace.

    Do note that Brady has started 12 additional games at this point in his career.
     
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    Re: Brady vs Montana: First 9 years

    GOAT baaaaaaaahhh


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    Re: Brady vs Montana: First 9 years

    Wow. Those really are impressive numbers.
     
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    Re: Brady vs Montana: First 9 years

    Did montana ever break the touchdown record in his first 9 years? I think that stat is pretty important.
     
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    Re: Brady vs Montana: First 9 years

    Brady is the man, but he will never definitely surpass Montana in most people's minds until:

    -he wins a 4th ring, or more
    -or, he completely dominates the rest of his Superbowl appearances. Montana was always clutch in Superbowls, the best ever.
     
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    Re: Brady vs Montana: First 9 years

    Any chance you have Peyton's stats from his first 9 years to throw in there as an additional comparison?
     
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    And when has Brady been any less clutch...lets not forget he did lead a should have been game winning drive in the SB that many don't talk about.

    I think Brady and Montana are 1-2 and the order is up for debate us in new england will take Tommy Cali will take Montana and I bet it splits pretty even between the coasts.

    If Tommy wins more SBs the debate will be over.
     
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    Re: Brady vs Montana: First 9 years

    Very impressive stats and comparison, the end result with be the final numbers though.. even though that will be the topic of much discussion in the future... my bet is on #12.
     
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    Re: Brady vs Montana: First 9 years

    So that means he was 4 games shy of a full season more but got 56 more TDs. That would be a record for a full season not just a 12 game one.
    Despite the fact that he has played 12 more games, he still manage to throw 3 less INTs.
    I'm not sure ol' JM will be considered the greatest by anyone once TFB retires with all the achievements he is yet to achieve.:D
     
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    Re: Brady vs Montana: First 9 years

    Nice work. I would like to see a comparison using the same ammount of games. That would be more apples to apples. Still though, it's a pretty neat comparison.
     
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    Re: Brady vs Montana: First 9 years

    Looking purely at stats isn't the answer, otherwise you'd have to say Marino or Peyton are better than Brady.

    Also, historically teams in the 80's passed less than nowadays. Look at the total yardage of the top 10 passing teams every year in the 80's, compared to now. Bart Starr is in the Hall of Fame and his stats are far worse than Drew Bledsoe's.

    It's true Brady did have great game winning FG drives, but Montana has had multiple game-winning TD drives, many of which were in huge games, coming from behind, and starting deep in his own territory. This, on top of his ridiculous Superbowl stats, still make him ahead of Brady through their first 9 years.

    Now, if Brady wins a 4th ring to match Montana, and does it with some late game TD heroics, I could see him being the GOAT.
     
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    Spot on in your assesment, Mav. The Montana discussion goes way beyond numbers.

    Brady is on his way no question.
     
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    Re: Brady vs Montana: First 9 years

    Manning,
    144 games (vs 98 for montana and 111 for Brady)-Keepin mind Brady's stats are effectively 7 years with minimal in 2000 and 2008.

    275 TD 139 Int 37576 yds

    Team record
    Manning 92-52
    Brady 87-24
    Montna 67-31
     
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    Re: Brady vs Montana: First 9 years

    Especially insert Satan Manning on the playoff stat:

    PLAYOFF RECORD
    Manning 7-8 :eek:
    Brady 14-3
    Montana 7-4
     
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    Re: Brady vs Montana: First 9 years

    I'm not sure "Games choked" is an official statistic.......
     
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    Re: Brady vs Montana: First 9 years

    Just adding in Manning's first 9 years, per WhoaDirty's request, and adding TD/INT ratio

     
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    Re: Brady vs Montana: First 9 years

    >>>>playoff record
    Manning: 7-6<<<<<<

    Actually he's 7-8 with 6 'one and done' in the first round.......
    Take out 2006 when the defense carried them and he's 3-8, Schottenheimeresque.......
     
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    Re: Brady vs Montana: First 9 years

    Comparing stats of players from different teams, different systems, and most importantly different eras is futile. Brady is the man of his era, Montana was the man of his era - lets just leave it at that.
     
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    Re: Brady vs Montana: First 9 years

    It's not futile. It simply tells one small piece of the puzzle. Some good information can be gleaned from stats, but without context, and without looking at many more factors, they are meaningless.
     
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    Re: Brady vs Montana: First 9 years

    Not in the first 9 seasons.....

    2006 was season #9 for Manning, since he's been in the league longer than Brady. He's gone 0-2 in the playoffs since then.
     
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