Brady needs help

[Ring 6]

Let me start:

I am a die Hard Patriots fan I have been a fan since i was 4 years old.

Win lose or draw I am going to be a pats fan for life but I have a problem.

I think Bill is the greatest football mind of all time but one thing i have never, understood is the lack of a running game for pats past the 2004 season.

The Patriots have had great teams but the offensive line play has never been greatly physical.

Watching the games the Pats seem to get no serious push up front,some times lineman are be pushed into the backfield toward the runner or are on the ground. I played football my whole life and from the time i was in little league getting driven back on a run or pass is a NO!

For a coach that coached for 1980s Giants and believes in physical defense why Bill would not want a more physical running game.

The Offense is so reliant on Brady passing in serious games 40 to 50 times a game wow

Overall yes there have been injuries but still even before run blocking wise have the patriots are not physical.

Tom Brady is going to be 39 years old this season he can not keep going at this pace.

I wish that Brady had a real running game to take some of the pressure off him just like elway in 97-98.

Deion Lewis is a nice pass catching third down back who runs good routes.

LeGarrette Blount is a ok running back who has no real explosion who struggles against good defense Some of it is him some of it is the offensive line.

Yes the patriots can till win sups but man if Brady had a running game the team would be so much better.

Terell Davis basically carried Elway to superbowls It is Bradys time to not have to carry the load.

The patriots must become more physical upfront the carolina panthers run the erhardt perkins offense to and look how much more physical they are up front plus the panthers have a real back.

At the end of the day Bill is the greatest hands down but man Do not let my man Brady keep carrying the team on his back.

This was even more clear in both games vs the giants in both super bowls and the AFC Championship game last week.

If a team has no running game you have Linebacker like Von Miller rush up the field off the edge just like they did Saturday.

With a strong running back game you can not rush hard every down you have to slow down and control your gap and think.

You guys give me yours thoughts on this please.

I don't agree that the plan to take a team that had been epically great because of tom Brady will become better by reducing his importance.


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[Ring 6]

I just know that if the patriots had a real running game the team would be so much more deadly. Imagine playing the patriots where you have to commit defenders to defend the running game no more double teaming gronk or edeleman. It would open so many other things

This is not based on the reality of how nfl defenses work.


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[Ring 6]

Please do not say that the game is different now running the ball and playing good defense will never go out of style

But the game IS different.


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[Tunescribe]

Please do not say that the game is different now running the ball and playing good defense will never go out of style

Wrecks? Is that you?

 

[Calhoun44]

It sure would have been nice to have had a way to take advantage of the 8 men in coverage. I am not an X and O's guy. Is the solution as easy as coaching up the O-line and getting healthy? I liked the Pats commitment to the run early, but I sure as hell was glad they stopped trying to force the issue when they weren't having success.

 

[mgteich]

Are there top teams without a running quarterback?

We are a passing team as long as we have Brady.

I agree that we should bring in a thumper better than Blount.

We should add two OL starters. Of course, those could be Solder and Wendell. In addition, We should trade up in the 2nd to draft the best OT available.

 

[SVN]

I wonder who won the SB last yr and went to 5 consecutive AFCCG with the pats having all these soft and running game issues since 2004. ?

 

[PatsfanCP]

Running the ball hasn't gone out of style. What's gone out of style is the idea that you can build an offense primarily around the running game, and more specifically, around a running BACK. Unless you have an Adrian Peterson type that is a transcendent talent, spending big money on a single RB is a poor allocation of resources. The biggest reason most teams are able to run the ball is they have an O-Line that can run block, and an attitude that makes it effective.

It brings me back to the paradox I mentioned in another thread. The only way we're going to "add" a running game to this offense is by improving the offensive line. But if the offensive line had been even adequate last Sunday, we're winning that game WITHOUT a running game, much like we did last year.

Idk how they coach up the offensive line in
Fox-borough. But the way patriots run block have never been great they don't explode off the line they are not the aggressor.

Another problem with the patriots is they no real back on the roster Blount is not good enough.

At Brady's advanced age a running game would help so much

 

[PatsfanCP]

Are there top teams without a running quarterback?

We are a passing team as long as we have Brady.

I agree that we should bring in a thumper better than Blount.

We should add two OL starters. Of course, those could be Solder and Wendell. In addition, We should trade up in the 2nd to draft the best OT available.

I like the way you think