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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.It's now a matter of when, not if, backup quarterback Ryan Mallett will be traded. With little good tape on him, it's going to be tough for the Patriots to get what they want, which, considering he's a third-round pick with two years development invested, would at least be a second-round pick if not a first-rounder. Hard to see a team giving that up at this point. But with a weak quarterback draft class, this is the perfect time;
The Patriots are expected to be active on the free-agent market at cornerback, receiver and defensive end. Brady's deal gives them a lot more room.
I don't really see the logic in trading Mallett, especially in a weak QB class.
1) Mallett hasn't played enough to show high value to another team. Please spare me the "Hoyer was worth a 2nd rounder" nonsense. We're not getting a 4th rounder for Mallett as it would stand today.
2) Brady might *gasp* actually get hurt during a season, and we may actually need an experienced backup to step in and carry the team forward. Just because Cassell did OK filling in -- and it was just OK against a weak schedule -- doesn't mean we should assume we've got a Dante at QB coach and can plug in any old tomato can.
3) Who else are we going to replace Mallett with? And what are we going to get in return to make it worth losing Mallett?
In my mind, if Mallett can give the Patriots a shot at winning games, then keep him right where he is until his contract wraps up. If he doesn't want to re-sign at the end, then try to trade for anything or let him loose like Hoyer. If Mallett can't help the Patriots, then we should cut our losses anyways.
I don't really see the logic in trading Mallett, especially in a weak QB class.
1) Mallett hasn't played enough to show high value to another team. Please spare me the "Hoyer was worth a 2nd rounder" nonsense. We're not getting a 4th rounder for Mallett as it would stand today.
2) Brady might *gasp* actually get hurt during a season, and we may actually need an experienced backup to step in and carry the team forward. Just because Cassell did OK filling in -- and it was just OK against a weak schedule -- doesn't mean we should assume we've got a Dante at QB coach and can plug in any old tomato can.
3) Who else are we going to replace Mallett with? And what are we going to get in return to make it worth losing Mallett?
In my mind, if Mallett can give the Patriots a shot at winning games, then keep him right where he is until his contract wraps up. If he doesn't want to re-sign at the end, then try to trade for anything or let him loose like Hoyer. If Mallett can't help the Patriots, then we should cut our losses anyways.
Rumor has it that Cassel is going to be released and Alex Smith is going to the Cheifs. I could see Mike Lombardi (Cleveland) giving up a 2nd or 3rd rounder for Mallett. Cassel needs to regroup after getting the crap beat out of him in Kansas City (IMO, due to a poor offensive line). Also, I think Josh could help get Cassel's confidence back.
We're not getting a 4th rounder for Mallett as it would stand today.
I don't really see the logic in trading Mallett, especially in a weak QB class.
1) Mallett hasn't played enough to show high value to another team. Please spare me the "Hoyer was worth a 2nd rounder" nonsense. We're not getting a 4th rounder for Mallett as it would stand today.
2) Brady might *gasp* actually get hurt during a season, and we may actually need an experienced backup to step in and carry the team forward. Just because Cassell did OK filling in -- and it was just OK against a weak schedule -- doesn't mean we should assume we've got a Dante at QB coach and can plug in any old tomato can.
3) Who else are we going to replace Mallett with? And what are we going to get in return to make it worth losing Mallett?
In my mind, if Mallett can give the Patriots a shot at winning games, then keep him right where he is until his contract wraps up. If he doesn't want to re-sign at the end, then try to trade for anything or let him loose like Hoyer. If Mallett can't help the Patriots, then we should cut our losses anyways.
Replace Mallett with Cassel or Hoyer, both available
Says who? If you were a GM what would you rather do - gamble a first on Gino Smith or a 2nd 3rd or 4th rounder on Mallet who is a better prospect and has had 2 years of NFL coaching?
You have to look at in different terms. For example say Gronk is in this years draft and you trade Mallett to whoever and get a 2nd round pick and the Pats draft Gronk, who helps you win? Mallett standing on the sidelines or Gronk setting records?
Maybe they draft the next Boldin, Branch, or Torey Smith with that pick that helps you win.
I don't really see the logic in trading Mallett, especially in a weak QB class.
1) Mallett hasn't played enough to show high value to another team. Please spare me the "Hoyer was worth a 2nd rounder" nonsense. We're not getting a 4th rounder for Mallett as it would stand today.
2) Brady might *gasp* actually get hurt during a season, and we may actually need an experienced backup to step in and carry the team forward. Just because Cassell did OK filling in -- and it was just OK against a weak schedule -- doesn't mean we should assume we've got a Dante at QB coach and can plug in any old tomato can.
3) Who else are we going to replace Mallett with? And what are we going to get in return to make it worth losing Mallett?
In my mind, if Mallett can give the Patriots a shot at winning games, then keep him right where he is until his contract wraps up. If he doesn't want to re-sign at the end, then try to trade for anything or let him loose like Hoyer. If Mallett can't help the Patriots, then we should cut our losses anyways.
I don't really see the logic in trading Mallett, especially in a weak QB class.
1) Mallett hasn't played enough to show high value to another team. Please spare me the "Hoyer was worth a 2nd rounder" nonsense. We're not getting a 4th rounder for Mallett as it would stand today.
2) Brady might *gasp* actually get hurt during a season, and we may actually need an experienced backup to step in and carry the team forward. Just because Cassell did OK filling in -- and it was just OK against a weak schedule -- doesn't mean we should assume we've got a Dante at QB coach and can plug in any old tomato can.
3) Who else are we going to replace Mallett with? And what are we going to get in return to make it worth losing Mallett?
In my mind, if Mallett can give the Patriots a shot at winning games, then keep him right where he is until his contract wraps up. If he doesn't want to re-sign at the end, then try to trade for anything or let him loose like Hoyer. If Mallett can't help the Patriots, then we should cut our losses anyways.
Ignoring the talent level of Mallett.....
Brady's not going anywhere for the next 5 years.
Mallett has a contract that ends after 2014, and isn't going to re-sign if he thinks he's a starter.
Brian Hoyer and Matt Cassel should be available for the veteran backup role.
The Patriots don't need a lot of picks, but they need "playmakers".
The Patriots don't have picks in rounds 4,5,6
Getting a pick in this year's draft, even a low pick, gives the Patriots the ammo to move up.
In short, the smart play, IMO, is to trade Mallett, regardless of his talent level.
Sure, it could be anyone of the superstar players you list. It also could be a Ron Brace, a Darius Butler, or a Pat Chung just the same--all of whom were 2nd round picks themselves.
Or a Bethel Johnson, a Marquise Hill, a Tyrone Wheatley, a Jermaine Cunningham,
a Glas-IR Dowling, a Tavon Wilson...
Now you've gone and made me all depressed.
BTW, if Bill can't get a 2nd-rounder for Mallett, then I say keep him.
For what? He's not the future, that was settled today. In two years he's worth zilch and he's gone anyway. May never be worth more than he is today, whatever that may be. We don't even know if he's a competent backup. He's certainly not a guy with a similar skillset to Brady. And he's taking up a valuable roster spot that could be used on a guy you know has a similar skillset or even a guy whose proven he can run this offense - just for openers. For all we know Kafka might chase him off the roster in camp. Some guys get a little jiggy when they know the writing is on the wall.