ProFootballWeekly: Pats intent on extending Wilfork

FootballFanetic said:

As a Bills fan, I can tell you that that hit on Losman still has people steaming, and I'd imagine folks on the other three teams he got fined against

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Not to be too snide here, but given how "well" Losman has played against the Pats, do you really think any Patriot wanted him injured? [Ditto for Pennington, BTW.]

Good Lord, and I thought Wilfork was a load. His wife appears to be one major ball buster!

FootballFanetic said:

As a Bills fan, I can tell you that that hit on Losman still has people steaming

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As a Bills fan, the kind of hit you should get steamed about is a hit-and-run. Especially if you walk around Buffalo.

PatsFan37 said:

As a Bills fan, the kind of hit you should get steamed about is a hit-and-run. Especially if you walk around Buffalo.

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And your starting right tackle had a drug habit that could put an elephant down for a month (anyone else suspect that those "hundred pills ever few days" could have found their way somewhere else than down Kaczur's throat, perhaps somewhere else in the same locker room?) What's your point?

FootballFanetic said:

And your starting right tackle had a drug habit that could put an elephant down for a month (anyone else suspect that those "hundred pills ever few days" could have found their way somewhere else than down Kaczur's throat, perhaps somewhere else in the same locker room?) What's your point?

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Are you still here? You actually came back for more after how absolutely ignorant you were proven to be during the whole 'spygate' farce?

FootballFanetic said:

As a Bills fan, I can tell you that that hit on Losman still has people steaming

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That hit was Week 3. Lots of other teams, including your own, had a chance to get even. You people have enough problems with your team that you don't need to waste energy on this.

FootballFanetic said:

It was a serious question--if I were Pioli it would be in my calculus when negotiating with him. Unlike Harrison, Wilfork plays a position where the big boys can get at him and do to him what he does to others. $25 million guaranteed is a lot of dough to pay to someone who may be on the wrong end one of these days of the kind of hits he dishes out--the kind that can end seasons or careers.....

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It's comical. Everyone on the Bills--even the QB who got fallen into goes out of their way to say they KNOW Wilfork isn't a dirty player etc...but Mr. Harvard here apparently knows more about it than they do.

FootballFanetic said:

And your starting right tackle had a drug habit that could put an elephant down for a month (anyone else suspect that those "hundred pills ever few days" could have found their way somewhere else than down Kaczur's throat, perhaps somewhere else in the same locker room?) What's your point?

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You do know that for someone with severe pain taking 12-20 pills ("hundred pills every few days") isn't that big a deal, right? Because the body develops resistance to the medication, and more is required simply to relieve the pain. I mean...you're a Harvard educated lawyer or garbage truck driver or whatever, you should know this stuff.

jbb9s said:

Mrs. Wilfork: "Krafty - I ain't got no time for this low ball offer"

Mr. Kraft: "Well that's good to hear, since most real agents have JDs, I am sure you understand the concept of a double negative then"

Mrs. Wilfork: "We ain't taking no 34M over 5 yrs"

Mr. Kraft: "Great - we'll schedule the presser. Thanks for making this easy"

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haha yeah, all black people are stupid and have poor grammar.

racism is awesome.

a.paul said:

It's comical. Everyone on the Bills--even the QB who got fallen into goes out of their way to say they KNOW Wilfork isn't a dirty player etc...but Mr. Harvard here apparently knows more about it than they do.

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The fines (and tapes) speak for themselves, but in case they don't, wasn't it certain members of both the Chargers and Giants O-lines who called Big Vince dirty this offseason during the playoff run? The difference is, of course, that O'Hara and the G-men backed up their talk by neutralizing him and winning the game.

On the painkiller stuff, that all depends on the dosage size of course, which I don't think we've ever seen, but put another way, in dollar terms, the guy had a $400,000 a year habit ($4000 twice a week apparently). Even for an NFL player that seems a little extreme, no? I mean, he's still on his rookie deal so can't be making more than $2 million a year I'd guess. So we're expected to believe that he's spending about 35-40% of his take home pay on his drug habit? Drugs are indeed evil (and don't get me wrong, I'm glad the guy's getting help), so it's possible, but it's also possible that he was just a middleman here--if you want further investigation of something, that may be a good place to start. And unlike Lynch's crime (the only reason I brought this up), I'm pretty sure what Kaczur did was likely a felony, so may be better to check your own house before throwing stones.

FootballFanetic said:

The fines (and tapes) speak for themselves, but in case they don't, wasn't it certain members of both the Chargers and Giants O-lines who called Big Vince dirty this offseason during the playoff run? The difference is, of course, that O'Hara and the G-men backed up their talk by neutralizing him and winning the game.

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Neutralizing him? Who the heck neutralized him? It isn't exactly like they were running all over them.

If you want to still be bitter about a hit that may or may not have been dirty, go right ahead. I think it is somewhat silly, especially when Wilfork has actually tried to reach out to Losman to apologize to him. I really don't think that is the type of person people go out of their way, risking their own career, to injure.

FootballFanetic said:

On the painkiller stuff, that all depends on the dosage size of course, which I don't think we've ever seen, but put another way, in dollar terms, the guy had a $400,000 a year habit ($4000 twice a week apparently). Even for an NFL player that seems a little extreme, no?

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All we know about is what happened during the alleged sting operation; to say that that is what had been happening all along is, at best, premature. [And, BTW, his salary for 2007 was only $385K, so I'm guessing he wasn't spending that much that often.]

fnordcircle said:

haha yeah, all black people are stupid and have poor grammar.

racism is awesome.

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haha yeah it is...especially when Mrs. Wilfork is a lady of pallor.

In other words, white.

FootballFanetic said:

The fines (and tapes) speak for themselves, but in case they don't, wasn't it certain members of both the Chargers and Giants O-lines who called Big Vince dirty this offseason during the playoff run? The difference is, of course, that O'Hara and the G-men backed up their talk by neutralizing him and winning the game.

On the painkiller stuff, that all depends on the dosage size of course, which I don't think we've ever seen, but put another way, in dollar terms, the guy had a $400,000 a year habit ($4000 twice a week apparently). Even for an NFL player that seems a little extreme, no? I mean, he's still on his rookie deal so can't be making more than $2 million a year I'd guess. So we're expected to believe that he's spending about 35-40% of his take home pay on his drug habit? Drugs are indeed evil (and don't get me wrong, I'm glad the guy's getting help), so it's possible, but it's also possible that he was just a middleman here--if you want further investigation of something, that may be a good place to start. And unlike Lynch's crime (the only reason I brought this up), I'm pretty sure what Kaczur did was likely a felony, so may be better to check your own house before throwing stones.

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The funniest part is him getting a fine in the SD game on a play that didn't even get a penalty flag. So if the league is going to go back and review game tapes on Monday and issue fines, do you suppose we'll ever see the final score of a game changed when they see on the replay that the zebra missed the call and the receiver was in (or out)? And if not, how do they justify fining a player for something that wasn't a violation at the time?

And it's pretty funny--now you've got Kaczur as a dealer, a middleman?

Didn't all your pronouncements over the past few months teach you enough about the flavor of foot?

fnordcircle said:

haha yeah, all black people are stupid and have poor grammar.

racism is awesome.

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I think Wilfork's wife is white, isn't she? Not that it even matters, but get your facts straight first.

FootballFanetic said:

The fines (and tapes) speak for themselves, but in case they don't, wasn't it certain members of both the Chargers and Giants O-lines who called Big Vince dirty this offseason during the playoff run? The difference is, of course, that O'Hara and the G-men backed up their talk by neutralizing him and winning the game.

On the painkiller stuff, that all depends on the dosage size of course, which I don't think we've ever seen, but put another way, in dollar terms, the guy had a $400,000 a year habit ($4000 twice a week apparently). Even for an NFL player that seems a little extreme, no? I mean, he's still on his rookie deal so can't be making more than $2 million a year I'd guess. So we're expected to believe that he's spending about 35-40% of his take home pay on his drug habit? Drugs are indeed evil (and don't get me wrong, I'm glad the guy's getting help), so it's possible, but it's also possible that he was just a middleman here--if you want further investigation of something, that may be a good place to start. And unlike Lynch's crime (the only reason I brought this up), I'm pretty sure what Kaczur did was likely a felony, so may be better to check your own house before throwing stones.

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One thing that Lynch is very lucky about is the fact that the person he hit did not die due to the injuries. Besides the emotional trauma due to taking someone elses life he probably would have faced about 5 years in jail and at least a 1 year suspension from the NFL.

juxtapoz15 said:

I think Wilfork's wife is white, isn't she? Not that it even matters, but get your facts straight first.

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It's racist to hate white folk for being white.

slash83 said:

Sounds like his wife is his agent...

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behind every man success, there is a woman.

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FootballFanetic said:

The fines (and tapes) speak for themselves, but in case they don't, wasn't it certain members of both the Chargers and Giants O-lines who called Big Vince dirty this offseason during the playoff run? The difference is, of course, that O'Hara and the G-men backed up their talk by neutralizing him and winning the game.

On the painkiller stuff, that all depends on the dosage size of course, which I don't think we've ever seen, but put another way, in dollar terms, the guy had a $400,000 a year habit ($4000 twice a week apparently). Even for an NFL player that seems a little extreme, no? I mean, he's still on his rookie deal so can't be making more than $2 million a year I'd guess. So we're expected to believe that he's spending about 35-40% of his take home pay on his drug habit? Drugs are indeed evil (and don't get me wrong, I'm glad the guy's getting help), so it's possible, but it's also possible that he was just a middleman here--if you want further investigation of something, that may be a good place to start. And unlike Lynch's crime (the only reason I brought this up), I'm pretty sure what Kaczur did was likely a felony, so may be better to check your own house before throwing stones.

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I'm assuming that you're saying this to get us going. But I'll bite, it should be fun.

Neutralizing him? Lets take SD first. The Pats played SD twice last year and beat them both times. After both games the SD players said that Wilfork played dirty (i.e. kicked their butt). They also said that the Patriot cheerleaders, mascot, and food vendors also play dirty. Now if the SD players say that the Patriots are dirty, then it must be true. Because we all know that the SD players are the most classiest, up-right citizens, best role models, and most humble players in the NFL. If you don't believe this, then just ask them yourself. The SD players will be the first to tell you about themselves again, and again, and again....

Now for the Giants. First off they are to be congratulated for a great game and for winning the SB. God knows I wish the Pats won, but you have to give credit where credit is due. The Pats defensive line didn't lose the game, the Pats offensive line lost the game. The Giants defensive line and lbs owned them. The Pats defense gave up 17 points. After the game, a bunch of Giants players took back or recanted their remarks about Wilfork.

As a Kazur and the pain killers goes. He got caught, he owned up, and he helped nab a drug dealer. It doesn't make him a saint, but at least he owned up like a man. BTW: I'm sure every team has one or two guys that do this including the Bills. I'm not saying its right but don't throw stones...

Now we get to Lynch. He hits a person with his SUV and then takes off. He leaves the person not knowing how badly she is injured or if she's even alive. We call that hit and run. He doesn't call the police and refuses to meet with them. His car is impounded and it is proven that it was his car. He still refuses to meet with the police. Witnesses come forward stating that he was in the car. He still refuses to meet with the police. He attends the Bill's mini-camp. He still refuses to go to the police unless he gets a plea bargain.

So you point is?