Court denies Brady a re-hearing!!!

anditsgood · Jul 13, 2016

XLIX said:
Yeah I heard that too. Might not be the worst idea.... but it got me wondering, purely hypothetically:

Suppose Brady continues the appeal but serves the suspension. He doesn't get paid. Then suppose he wins the appeal. I assume he gets paid and the team has to pay him. But that's not terribly fair to the team considering they (obviously) do not support the suspension.

Just some random thoughts....

IF i knew JG would go 4-0 or 3-1, id be ok with that, but if he goes less, i wont

Big Bucks · Jul 13, 2016

IcyPatriot said:
I would rather see Brady not go the Supreme court route but I doubt that's what the NFLPA wants.
That would free him up now to go what I think is the best route.

Brady should go full ahead on a massive libel suit against the NFL ... forcing them to discovery.
A libel suit would clear his name more IMO than a SCOTUS win would.

Did I read right today that Brady has 3 years from when it all started to invoke a defamation suit in Massachusetts, so time is clicking on that clock too.

IcyPatriot · Jul 13, 2016

Is there enough tim for Brady to get a stay without it affecting training camp preparation?

woolster22 · Jul 13, 2016

If Brady is granted an sc stay, but they do not take the case, that could fall at the end of the season/in the post season. (From my limited knowledge and recollection) Food for though.

XLIX · Jul 13, 2016

Big Bucks said:
Did I read right today that Brady has 3 years from when it all started to invoke a defamation suit in Massachusetts, so time is clicking on that clock too.

He has 3 years from when the defamatory statements were made, so it depends on which statements he considered defamatory and were the basis of the lawsuit.

XLIX · Jul 13, 2016

IcyPatriot said:
Is there enough tim for Brady to get a stay without it affecting training camp preparation?

Depends on what you mean by training camp preparation. Brady's suspension does not begin until Monday, September 5, so none of this impacts the preseason (barring a stay).

However, if by "preparation" you mean the choice from Belichick regarding which QB to give 1st team reps to, then there is really no way to force-rush that choice.

Tony2046 · Jul 13, 2016

IcyPatriot said:
I would rather see Brady not go the Supreme court route but I doubt that's what the NFLPA wants.
That would free him up now to go what I think is the best route.

Brady should go full ahead on a massive libel suit against the NFL ... forcing them to discovery.
A libel suit would clear his name more IMO than a SCOTUS win would.

I like this but he needs to take it to the Supreme Court. If you are under any type of arbitration agreement you need him to go to court.

But he does not need to request a stay.

IcyPatriot · Jul 13, 2016

Tony2046 said:
I like this but he needs to take it to the Supreme Court. If you are under any type of arbitration agreement you need him to go to court.

But he does not need to request a stay.

If he goes to Scotus he won't be able to file suit against the NFL ...
I guess I am selfish in my desire ... really would love the choice that fries goodell the most.

Tony2046 · Jul 13, 2016

IcyPatriot said:
If he goes to Scotus he won't be able to file suit against the NFL ...
I guess I am selfish in my desire ... really would love the choice that fries goodell the most.

I don't understand what you mean. He can't file a suit against the NFL if he goes to Scotus?

@XLIX - is this true?

IcyPatriot · Jul 13, 2016

As a huge Twilight Zone fan ... this image came to mind immediately.
Here's what Brady sees when he takes off the bandages from today's ruling.

Tunescribe · Jul 13, 2016

IcyPatriot said:
As a huge Twilight Zone fan ... this image came to mind immediately.
Here's what Brady sees when he takes off the bandages from today's ruling.

Here are Tom and Gisele on their next flight to Costa Rica. That's Goodell on the other side of the window:

TheFlyingWedge · Jul 13, 2016

He'll appeal to the Supreme Court for a stay and will play in games 1-4 this season. Mark it.

XLIX · Jul 13, 2016

IcyPatriot said:
I would rather see Brady not go the Supreme court route but I doubt that's what the NFLPA wants.

I respectfully disagree. As things currently stand, Goodell has unlimited power to discipline however the heck he wants, CBA be damned. He can do anything he wants then run to CA2 with a "Motion to Confirm." The NFLPA cannot let that stand without a fight.

XLIX · Jul 13, 2016

VectorPrime said:
If he gets a stay he will play the entire season no problem because it will take months from the November hearing to get a decision. So we would get to go through this again.

That's not exactly right. The timeframe for when the USSC will decide whether or not they will hear the case depends greatly on when Brady's lawyers file their request (and how quickly the league responds).

Brady has until October 13 to request a USSC hearing, then the league has 30 days to reply, and Brady gets 10 more days to reply back to the league, so Brady could stretch that to late October, early November if they wanted (depending on how quickly the league responded).

McCann says the USSC takes an "average" of 6 weeks to issue a decision once the request is received, but that is just a guideline and certainly not a staunch rule. If they decided not to hear the case, that decision could come at anytime late in the season or - God forbid - postseason.

Tony2046 · Jul 13, 2016

XLIX said:
That's not exactly right. The timeframe for when the USSC will decide whether or not they will hear the case depends greatly on when Brady's lawyers file their request (and how quickly the league responds).

Brady has until October 13 to request a USSC hearing, then the league has 30 days to reply, and Brady gets 10 more days to reply back to the league, so Brady could stretch that to late October, early November if they wanted (depending on how quickly the league responded).

McCann says the USSC takes an "average" of 6 weeks to issue a decision once the request is received, but that is just a guideline and certainly not a staunch rule. If they decided not to hear the case, that decision could come at anytime late in the season or - God forbid - postseason.

Would it be delayed any further because of the presidential election?

GrogansArmy · Jul 13, 2016

So bummed out. Except for Judge Berman everything about this stupidass-gate has gone against us.

Considering half the country is below freezing in the winter time, I can't understand how they don't get it that footballs deflate naturally in the cold. They all drive cars, they must have noticed their tires deflated when it got cold. But they just won't believe that about footballs. SMH.

I'll probably get reprimanded for this, but I hope all the owners DIAF, yeah including you Bobby. As for Goodell... well if I gave my thoughts on what I want done to him I would be banned.

Oh and **** Cena, make a joke about Brady losing his appeal during the espy's, screw you *******.

XLIX · Jul 13, 2016

Tony2046 said:
I don't understand what you mean. He can't file a suit against the NFL if he goes to Scotus?

@XLIX - is this true?

No. His ability to file a civil suit against the league (or Commissioner Goodell) is not dependent on whether he goes to the Supreme Court and/or wins or loses there.

Of course, Brady's team may decide they don't want to file a civil suit until after all the appeals process is played out, but that's their decision. Brady can file a civil suit at anytime within the 3 year Statute of Limitations (assuming he files in Massachusetts).

XLIX · Jul 13, 2016

Tony2046 said:
Would it be delayed any further because of the presidential election?

Barring a repeat of Gore-Bush circa 2000, I don't see why the election would impact the USSC's schedule.

GrogansArmy · Jul 13, 2016

XLIX said:
Of course, Brady's team may decide they don't want to file a civil suit until after all the appeals process is played out, but that's their decision. Brady can file a civil suit at anytime within the 3 year Statute of Limitations (assuming he files in Massachusetts).

And if the SC decides to take the case and takes 2 years to decide and Brady ends up losing, does that means Brady will be beyond the 3 year Statute of Limitations and he won't be able to file a civil lawsuit against the NFL/GodPleaseRapeEll?

XLIX · Jul 13, 2016

GrogansArmy said:
And if the SC decides to take the case and takes 2 years to decide and Brady ends up losing, does that means Brady will be beyond the 3 year Statute of Limitations and he won't be able to file a civil lawsuit against the NFL/GodPleaseRapeEll?

Brady does not have to wait for the Supreme Court to rule in order to file a civil defamation suit. I suppose if the USSC pushes this all the way back to 2018 before they make their ruling then Brady would not have the luxury of waiting that long. But remember: The Federal Courts (including the USSC if they hear this case) are not judging Brady's guilt or innocence. Nothing they say will impact a civil suit (besides, of course, the financial damages Brady suffered from this whole farce).

FWIW, as a general rule, IIRC, Statutes of Limitations get extended if a case is already in court and one party has to await a ruling before they can proceed with some sort of motion. That is not the situation here, but sometimes it does happen.

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