Johnny Manziel gets 4 game suspension for violating drug abuse policy, Sheldon Richardson 1 game

In principle, I don't think professional athletes should be disciplined at all for conduct outside of the actual work they do. That should be between them and society. If as their employer, an NFL team finds that it harms their product, then they can part ways with them. Otherwise, if the player shows up for work as required, and does their job, there should be no mention of it.

betterthanthealternative said:

In principle, I don't think professional athletes should be disciplined at all for conduct outside of the actual work they do. That should be between them and society. If as their employer, an NFL team finds that it harms their product, then they can part ways with them. Otherwise, if the player shows up for work as required, and does their job, there should be no mention of it.

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As simple and obvious as this sentiment is, a huge portion of people are far to brainwashed to see it.

75% of NFL players are complete tards..same with NBA

Ivan said:

Josh Gordon must Be wishing he had gone to the Jets, he would have only missed a game or two.

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One game tops. Lol

I never liked this kid, even when he was king shlt at TA&M. Never thought he'd translate to the NFL, not enough "Flutie"in him, if you will, for that to happen, and obviously too much db ahole to even be a competent backup. Screw Manziel.

betterthanthealternative said:

In principle, I don't think professional athletes should be disciplined at all for conduct outside of the actual work they do. That should be between them and society. If as their employer, an NFL team finds that it harms their product, then they can part ways with them. Otherwise, if the player shows up for work as required, and does their job, there should be no mention of it.

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Comically the idea was that teams couldn't be trusted to penalize their players for behavior that would damage the NFL brand. However how the NFL has used this authority has been far worse than leaving it in the hands of individual teams…damaging the brand.

betterthanthealternative said:

In principle, I don't think professional athletes should be disciplined at all for conduct outside of the actual work they do. That should be between them and society. If as their employer, an NFL team finds that it harms their product, then they can part ways with them. Otherwise, if the player shows up for work as required, and does their job, there should be no mention of it.

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I don't think such a solution could work in today's media climate. It sounds good in the abstract but when an actual player commits an actual crime, the significant majority of the fanbase wants the league to do something about it. Just look at how much heat the NFL took when they suspended Ray Rice for "only" 2 games.

Since you need to be on an NFL* roster to serve the suspension, I wonder how many years it will take for Manziel to serve the suspension.

It is possible that he will never serve the suspension and the NFL* will essentially have to write it off as an "uncollectable debt".

IcyPatriot said:

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Hard to believe they're going that cheap. If I was a Browns fan I'd snag one and take the nameplate off.

Tunescribe said:

Hard to believe they're going that cheap. If I was a Browns fan I'd snag one and take the nameplate off.

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If I was a Browns fan, I would seek professional help.

Galeb said:

If I was a Browns fan, I would seek professional help.

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The Browns have twice as many NFL titles than the Pats. They're 2nd all time in % of titles won vs years played. Green Bay is 1st at 13.7% and Cleveland is 2nd at 11.9%.

1960Pats said:

The Browns have twice as many NFL titles than the Pats. They're 2nd all time in % of titles won vs years played. Green Bay is 1st at 13.7% and Cleveland is 2nd at 11.9%.

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I have to say I'd rather have 4 titles that any 23 year old can remember - and any 7 year old can remember the most recent one - than 8 titles where you'd have to be 60 to remember the most recent one, and you'd have to be 70 to remember the most recent 4.

1960Pats said:

The Browns have twice as many NFL titles than the Pats. They're 2nd all time in % of titles won vs years played. Green Bay is 1st at 13.7% and Cleveland is 2nd at 11.9%.

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Don't confuse the Browns with the Ravens. The current Browns organization is 0-1 in playoff games since they were formed in 1999.

XLIX said:

I have to say I'd rather have 4 titles that any 23 year old can remember - and any 7 year old can remember the most recent one - than 8 titles where you'd have to be 60 to remember the most recent one, and you'd have to be 70 to remember the most recent 4.

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I agree. I'd much rather be a Pats fans than a Browns fan. I was just making the point that Browns fans don't need to seek professional help. They're in a better place than many teams in the NFL.

Galeb said:

Don't confuse the Browns with the Ravens. The current Browns organization is 0-1 in playoff games since they were formed in 1999.

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You're the one who's confused. The Browns started playing in the NFL in 1946, took three years off from 1996-1998 and started back up in 1999. They have 67 years on the books in the NFL, 11 more than our Patriots.

Edit: If you don't believe me maybe this will help you;

Baltimore Ravens Team Encyclopedia | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Cleveland Browns Team Encyclopedia | Pro-Football-Reference.com

1960Pats said:

You're the one who's confused. The Browns started playing in the NFL in 1946, took three years off from 1996-1998 and started back up in 1999. They have 67 years on the books in the NFL, 11 more than our Patriots.

Edit: If you don't believe me maybe this will help you;

Baltimore Ravens Team Encyclopedia | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Cleveland Browns Team Encyclopedia | Pro-Football-Reference.com

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The organization that used to be the Browns left town and changed their name. The current Browns are a completely different organization. The NFL and their affiliates can can try to spin it whatever way they want (see IGL), but the current Cleveland Browns organization has only existed since 1999.

Even for those who consider the current Browns to be the same organization as the original, their playoff record would be 16-20 with no superbowl wins. That said, if you're going to have the warped perspective that they are the same organization, you might as well consider championships from the 40s 50s and 60s equal to superbowl wins.

XLIX said:

I don't think such a solution could work in today's media climate. It sounds good in the abstract but when an actual player commits an actual crime, the significant majority of the fanbase wants the league to do something about it. Just look at how much heat the NFL took when they suspended Ray Rice for "only" 2 games.

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Perhaps. But if there is that much of the fanbase is upset, then let the marketplace works its magic.

The reason the Rice furor happened was comparative to other suspensions. If there were no suspensions, there might be a furor, but it would be about whether to root for a team with a wife beater. The NFL put the idea of suspensions into the minds of the fans.

Gumby said:

Actually: Drugs, guns, speeding, and child endangerment: the Quad-fecta, or " just another day at the jesters office"

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aka, "Goodell Family Values"

IcyPatriot said:

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That's lower than his playing cards at Walmart.