OT: Brock Osweiler Agrees To 4yr $72M Deal With Texans

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Brock Osweiler agrees in principle to $72M Texans deal

Somebody post the Denver suicide hotline!

RecoveringCowboy said:

Somebody post the Denver suicide hotline!

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Yeap, someone call the national guard.

Are RGIII or Kapernick heir apparent to the Mile High Throne?? Wonder how much they will throw at those guys.. the FA market has gotten very stupid very quickly..

$18M a year for a guy who has a total of seven starts, and was the definition of "meh" during them. Sweet Christmas.

Fixit said:

$18M a year for a guy who has a total of seven starts, and was the definition of "meh" during them. Sweet Christmas.

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And for a guy who couldn't maintain that starting job when his competition was a has-been.

LOL, good for him! He was obviously POed at the Broncos and got back at them in the most efficient way he could. I am trying to imagine Elway's face when he heard the news.

Bella*chick said:

LOL, good for him! He was obviously POed at the Broncos and got back at them in the most efficient way he could. I am trying to imagine Elway's face when he heard the news.

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Maybe he can lure Peyton* back..

This is a terrible deal and screws up the market badly, this is textbook definition of a Mediocre GM going nuts throwing money in the FA trying to desperately improve, I hope the Texans go 1-15

Broncos should have franchise tagged @ 19.95 M.

At least they could have reaped a draft pick for him.

varjao said:

This is a terrible deal and screws up the market badly, this is textbook definition of a Mediocre GM going nuts throwing money in the FA trying to desperately improve, I hope the Texans go 1-15

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I think you'll be surprised by Osweiler. I think he can be a Joe Flacco level quarterback but, perhaps not as clutch (gotta give Flacco some daps, he's a great postseason QB).

Froob said:

I think you'll be surprised by Osweiler. I think he can be a Joe Flacco level quarterback but, perhaps not as clutch (gotta give Flacco some daps, he's a great postseason QB).

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I don't think he is bad, he filled in well for the Broncos and was a big part on their SB run, but he's too unproven, he was playing in a system that doesn't require a QB carrying the team in the shoulders and with a top defense to give some support. Nothing against the guy, actually he gave a big middle finger to the Broncos, but I hate when GM's screw up the market like this so I'm actually rooting to the Texans front office to fail miserably.

varjao said:

I don't think he is bad, he filled in well for the Broncos and was a big part on their SB run, but he's too unproven, he was playing in a system that doesn't require a QB carrying the team in the shoulders and with a top defense to give some support. Nothing against the guy, actually he gave a big middle finger to the Broncos, but I hate when GM's screw up the market like this so I'm actually rooting to the Texans front office to fail miserably.

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I get what you're saying but this makes all kinds of sense for Houston as opposed to going back to the Hoyer well or picking up a rookie. They went 9-7 with a pretty good defense but an offense of Hopkins and not much else. Osweiler is highly cuttable after year 2 of this deal (if he sucks) with only $6m in dead money at that point.

I don't think you can blame the Texans or the GM for using the market sign a player they want (and even minimizing risk in the back end of said player's contract). Whether or not the NFL cap system is showing some cracks as the cap takes these sharper spikes that can quickly undervalue previous deals and/or teams are getting generally better across the board at manipulating it is a different discussion. Two problems I see:
1) The sort of random big jumps in the yearly cap number lead to some funny money contracts that rarely get fully paid out, might make more sense for both sides to agree to it going up $6m per year instead of $1m in year one and $11m in year too (same net result, less volatility).
2) Additionally as the total cap money gets higher it's a little easier for teams to play with the "base salary" amounts in these deals. Obviously the Patriots have always done this with some success also, but if looking for a way to prevent teams from getting out of these irresponsible deals (or force them into making more responsible ones) I think that'd be a spot to look.

Point being for Osweiler worst case scenario for Houston is they are likely no worse off at QB than they would have otherwise been for the next two years, at which point they will either be able to get out of the contract if he sucks or it if he is good then $18m AAV might be below the mean for a starting QB. Seems like a totally reasonable risk for a team without an answer at QB.

Bella*chick said:

LOL, good for him! He was obviously POed at the Broncos and got back at them in the most efficient way he could. I am trying to imagine Elway's face when he heard the news.

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Absolutely! Look at the timeline:
1) Osweiler helps get DEN in the Playoffs by beating CIN and NE in OT
2) Later gets benched for Manning
3) Didn't get credit (publicly) for SB run
4) Elway said they couldn't have done it w/o PM

If you were in his shoes, wouldn't you feel some type of way too? I know I would.

And...drum roll...the icing on the cake is that the NY Tabloids are in a frenzy that Fitzpatrick, who didn't sign a contract yesterday, might jump ship and leave the Jests with Geno as their #1QB.

Talk about two birds with one stone!

Myers: Mike Maccagnan can't let Ryan Fitzpatrick leave Jets

AtomicDawg said:

Absolutely! Look at the timeline:
1) Osweiler helps get DEN in the Playoffs by beating CIN and NE in OT
2) Later gets benched for Manning
3) Didn't get credit (publicly) for SB run
4) Elway said they couldn't have done it w/o PM

If you were in his shoes, wouldn't you feel some type of way too? I know I would.

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I would but, ultimately I think Denver was still a much better position if the contract situation was close.

AtomicDawg said:

Absolutely! Look at the timeline:
1) Osweiler helps get DEN in the Playoffs by beating CIN and NE in OT
2) Later gets benched for Manning
3) Didn't get credit (publicly) for SB run
4) Elway said they couldn't have done it w/o PM

If you were in his shoes, wouldn't you feel some type of way too? I know I would.

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He's a back up who certainly earned his ring.

If Osweiler had started all season and Manning only took the final kneel down in the superbowl, the media headlines all would've been "Manning wins world championship."

AtomicDawg said:

Absolutely! Look at the timeline:
1) Osweiler helps get DEN in the Playoffs by beating CIN and NE in OT
2) Later gets benched for Manning
3) Didn't get credit (publicly) for SB run
4) Elway said they couldn't have done it w/o PM

If you were in his shoes, wouldn't you feel some type of way too? I know I would.

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All of your observations are good.

I was surprised in February that Elway didn't give Osweiler more public props for his contributions to the Broncos' run last year...I mean we can bellyache all we want about the fumbled punt and a couple of bad calls, but the bottom line for Denver is that Osweiler was the QB for the team's definitive Regular Season victory, without which Peyton would have had to play his [final] game in what I recall was a very cold Foxboro that day.

So, that suggests to me that there were "issues" between Osweiler and the organization...and maybe the locker room?...that never made it into the media.

well everything i$ big in TX