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Their point about our running game sucking eggs, and whether this is a problem heading toward the postseason, is worth discussing;otherwise it's a lot of fluff for Denver fans.

Would definitely like to play them again with healthy Edelman and Hightower and Collins and officiating crew that doesn't suck.
Denver, we'd like you to meet Mr. Trey Williams. .. I can hardly wait to meet these clowns again. It WILL be a beat down of a lifetime. Shannon Sharpe will crawl under a rock
 
Their point about our running game sucking eggs, and whether this is a problem heading toward the postseason, is worth discussing;otherwise it's a lot of fluff for Denver fans.

Would definitely like to play them again with healthy Edelman and Hightower and Collins and officiating crew that doesn't suck.

We had no running game in the postseason last year either (except for the Indy game, but that doesn't count because we always run over them.) We used those short quick passes to Edelman and Amendola as a substitute for it and it worked well. We'll be doing the same thing when those guys return.

And who knows, Trey Williams may turn out to be decent.
 
Well yeah, the Pats are beat-up to hell n back now and they sure do pass a whole lot. But they'll be healthy for the playoffs and in today's NFL, you can win throwing 80% of the time.

If I'm part of the Broncos, I'm cutting this writer off from any access. Come playoffs, whether in NE or Denver, this story will be some definite bulletin board material.

Usually I think that stuff is overrated, but "too soft"? Dems fightin' words.

(I mean it's not like their star player poses in men's emo magazines or anything.) :)

Seriously though if they meet-up in the playoffs, I expect a serious @ss_whoopin from NE now.
 
BTW, this reminds me of the 2004 season. We were undefeated, coming off a SB the previous season, and we go into Pittsburgh (banged up) and they beat us down. We lose to the #1 defense, a rookie QB, and a team that most deem the best in the league.

They talked **** about us and how we "weren't on their level" and the team took notice. Bruschi's comments at 13:25 and then at 27:25 are perfect.



Then we laid the smack down on them in the AFCCG.

The only difference is that Pittsburgh was way better that season than Denver is this season.
 
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Well yeah, the Pats are beat-up to hell n back now and they sure do pass a whole lot. But they'll be healthy for the playoffs and in today's NFL, you can win throwing 80% of the time.

If I'm part of the Broncos, I'm cutting this writer off from any access. Come playoffs, whether in NE or Denver, this story will be some definite bulletin board material.

Usually I think that stuff is overrated, but "too soft"? Dems fightin' words.

(I mean it's not like their star player poses in men's emo magazines or anything.) :)

Seriously though if they meet-up in the playoffs, I expect a serious @ss_whoopin from NE now.

Me too. As in the previous video I posted, the players never forget, because Brady and Belichick don't let them forget.

It will be a glorious beat down, and I would prefer if it happened in Denver.
 
BTW, this reminds me of the 2004 season. We were undefeated, coming off a SB the previous season, and we go into Pittsburgh (banged up) and they beat us down. We lose to the #1 defense, a rookie QB, and a team that most deem the best in the league.

They talked **** about us and how we "weren't on their level" and the team took notice. Bruschi's comments at 13:25 are perfect.



Then we laid the smack down on them in the AFCCG.

The only difference is that Pittsburgh was way better that season than Denver is this season.

Yep, there it is. Reminds me exactly of that clip. Keep running your c*ckholsters, Denver. They'll be back
 
No need. With our top playmakers back, we could annihilate them even in Denver. If we took them to OT with half our team out, we'd have no problem winning there with all those guys returning for the playoffs.

In fact, I would kind of prefer that.

Well now apparently the new growing thing in the media is that Edelman isn't a lock for the playoffs.
 
Well now apparently the new growing thing in the media is that Edelman isn't a lock for the playoffs.

The guy is determined and a warrior. I'm confident he'll be there. Likely for the Divisional round, but if not, then definitely for the AFCCG.
 
This article is so delicious with irony and stupidity. It's like when you hear a great joke; it isn't worth analyzing or explaining. Just get a good laugh and move on.
 
The guy is determined and a warrior. I'm confident he'll be there. Likely for the Divisional round, but if not, then definitely for the AFCCG.

I think so too. But it's just funny that the media is starting to put that out there. Ya I guess technically he isn't a lock but saying that comes off like now it's doubtful he will, which is garbage because they have no clue.
 
Well now apparently the new growing thing in the media is that Edelman isn't a lock for the playoffs.

The guy is determined and a warrior. I'm confident he'll be there. Likely for the Divisional round, but if not, then definitely for the AFCCG.

His heart and brain won't make that decision; his bones will. Regardless of how badly he wants it, that won't determine how fast and how strong his foot will heal. I do like his chances, though, based on what I read about the injury. I'd say 75-80% chance he is good for the playoffs.
 
His heart and brain won't make that decision; his bones will. Regardless of how badly he wants it, that won't determine how fast and how strong his foot will heal. I do like his chances, though, based on what I read about the injury. I'd say 75-80% chance he is good for the playoffs.

If the average recovery time puts him on the edge of making it/not making it, then his rehab (which he has some control over) could certainly make the difference.

Also, didn't he come back a lot sooner than expected after a previous injury a few years ago?
 

Mark Kiszla is writing checks that somebody else has to cash.Other NFL teams just hate stuff like this from a reporter/fanboy who writes bulletin board material for opposing teams. This guys is the Denver Post's version of Shank.

He writes inflammatory, critical columns that lack perspective of any sort.
Mark Kiszla - The Denver Post

Calling the New England Patriots "soft" is just a flat out bad idea.
 
I for one am a big fan of this article..

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LOL, they barely beat the Pats B-squad even with some of the most lopsided officiating ever witnessed. And at home too. If these two teams meet in January with Edelman, Amendola, and Gronk on the field for the Pats, it'll get really ugly regardless of where the game is played.

CJ Anderson won't enjoy a productive day like he did again with Hightower and Collins healthy..

All the stars aligned for denver and they barely snuck out a win on overtime in their own stadium.. so it's pretty comical that they've elevated themselves to Godlike status after that game
 
We all forget that our oline has two rookies and Kline instead Wendell. They need some time to stay healthy and play the same position.
After that i think they ll be fine and put some serious numbers on team that think pats are soft.
 
I don't find anything wrong with that article. Allot of it is factual except for some of the speculative parts. I have resigned myself to not caring what others opinion of this team is. At the end of the day it just won't matter. We will see how things shake out, I like our chances.
 
I don't find anything wrong with that article. Allot of it is factual except for some of the speculative parts. I have resigned myself to not caring what others opinion of this team is. At the end of the day it just won't matter. We will see how things shake out, I like our chances.

Well, know what else won't make Brady happy? Being declared the prohibitive favorite to win the NFL championship only proves even the Las Vegas oddsmakers are guessing. In fact, since the undefeated Patriots lost to the New York Giants to conclude the 2007 season, only two of the eight teams favored in the Super Bowl have emerged victorious.

Faulty reasoning on many levels here. The logic part of my brain hurts badly, and I'm pretty sure you can figure out why. First, it switches from favorite to win the Super Bowl to favorite in the Super Bowl. It ignores that the Patriots have a better chance than anyone else, simply because they are not an odds-on favorite. Oddsmakers are always guessing, unless there is a favorite at 100% odds to win. The Patriots are +280, which is one of the highest probabilities you will see at this point in the season. Further, it ignores that many of these same players won the Super Bowl last year while being a favorite for much of the season and being the favorite (according to most books) going into the game. In other words, it ignores much more relevant examples to the 2015 Patriots and substitutes it for a small historical sample sizes among other NFL teams. Regardless, it tries to argue that since the Patriots are most likely to win the Super Bowl, they are not going to win the Super Bowl, though that reasoning applies even stronger to 31 teams other than the Patriots. This is stupid, second grade fallacy stuff here.

Forged by the strength of Brady's arm and the heat of his competitive fire, New England has made us believe running backs were quickly becoming relics from pro football's past, in the same way that dinosaurs once roamed the Earth. The Patriots don't need no stinkin' running game, not when they have Tom Terrific.

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..because we are talking about winning championships, and you remember those dominant running games from the '14 Patriots, '11 Giants, '10 Packer, '09 Saints, '08 Steelers, and '07 Giants, right? New England hasn't made you believe that...although they just reinforced it last year in the Super Bowl. It's funny, because the Broncos were the EXACT same thing the last three years and I'm sure there was no flame article about that offense. But now that Kubiak's offense is installed and the team won one big game, the running game is king again?

Well, the sad truth is New England's running game has never stunk worse. None of the six Super Bowl teams during the reign of Brady ever averaged less than the 87.2 yards produced per game by these Pats of 2015. While the NFL is a league ruled by quarterbacks, a New England offense dependent on Brady's arm for more than 78 percent of its yardage from scrimmage is seriously out of whack.


Ignores that the Patriots used the same formula all season and was 10-0, up 21-7 on the Broncos before blowing it, and used the same formula to beat both Baltimore and Seattle last year, with Seattle having one of the best pass defenses ever. The Patriots won the Super Bowl with one rushing first down, an all-time low total for Super Bowls. Their heavy passing, no rushing offense has been the league's best by every statistical measure and have a shiny ring to show for it.

The Patriots were unable to hold a fourth-quarter advantage in Denver because their ability to run was nonexistent. Three times in the final period of regulation, the New England offense took the field with a lead. And New England offensive guru Josh McDaniels did not even try to run the ball. During those three possessions, Brady threw 10 passes and LeGarrette Blount rushed once, for a single measly yard.

This exact strategy has worked enough that they had won 25 of their last 26 meaningful games coming in. They do what they always do, which is attack the opponent where they can succeed. Let's ignore that they had a key first down negated by a bogus OPI penalty and were a muffed punt away from putting the game away. They scored 24 points with many key injuries in the snow on the road against the best statistical defense in the league. Dumb overreaction trying to find causation where it does not exist.

Players know. Leading up to the game against New England, when told the Patriots were a team for the ages, the Broncos rolled their eyes.

No, that didn't happen. No one said they were a team for the ages, and no one rolled their eyes. Otherwise, it would have been a big story. Not surprised the writer just flat-out lies at this point to try to make additional points that aren't there.

The Pats are soft. Soft doesn't win the Super Bowl. In the playoffs, foes smell weakness.

"Soft" won last year's Super Bowl.


Look, the Broncos won the game, we all know this, but the writer is insanely stupid to pin that on the Patriots heavy pass strategy that has worked so many times against so many teams and arguably worked against Denver. It is just ignorant and moronic on so many levels. If the Patriots don't go 19-0, I guess they are doing things wrong. If only they were GM'd and coached by the writer of this article, I'm sure they'd be fine.
 
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I don't find anything wrong with that article. Allot of it is factual except for some of the speculative parts. I have resigned myself to not caring what others opinion of this team is. At the end of the day it just won't matter. We will see how things shake out, I like our chances.

Uh-huh...

Brilliant!
 
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