NFL's Latest Filing Against Brady Says Investigation Being Independent is 'Irrelevant'

I still think it is funny that they argue in court that it is irrelevant whether the Wells investigation was independent while desperately tries to convince the media and fans that it was independent.

I wonder if anyone in the national media will have the journalistic integrity to actually ask Goodell something like "Integrity matters a lot to you, your lawyers just said it didn't matter that the investigation wasn't independent, after you had spent 6 months telling us it was independent, what does that say about your integrity?"

They should have just put in the briefing "Don't let the facts get in your way".

voluntarysaftey said:

I wonder if anyone in the national media will have the journalistic integrity to actually ask Goodell something like "Integrity matters a lot to you, your lawyers just said it didn't matter that the investigation wasn't independent, after you had spent 6 months telling us it was independent, what does that say about your integrity?"

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Fraudell is scheduled to be on Mike and Mike this morning. I'm sure they will ask that very question.

Are these judges from the 2nd circuit going to only rule, or will they slap Goodell in the butt for bad behavior?

voluntarysaftey said:

I wonder if anyone in the national media will have the journalistic integrity to actually ask Goodell something like "Integrity matters a lot to you, your lawyers just said it didn't matter that the investigation wasn't independent, after you had spent 6 months telling us it was independent, what does that say about your integrity?"

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He would never allow a interview to be conducted in an environment he can't control. His questions are picked ahead of time and I'm sure he would never agree to answer such a relevant question to this case.

But, this is why the NFL came away looking like the dumbest people on the planet in the court room. They couldn't control the line of questioning and were forced to answer. It was pretty funny to follow those proceedings actually.

TheFlyingWedge said:

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Why would you say this? Does Judge Berman fit this image?

rochrist said:

Why would you say this? Does Judge Berman fit this image?

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I was under the impression it was a court room sketch of Goodell and Wells.

woolster22 said:

I was under the impression it was a court room sketch of Goodell and Wells.

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Beats me. Maybe you're right.

Deus Irae said:

Keys from NFL's appeal brief of Deflategate ruling

There you have it, folks. According to the NFL:

Deflating a football = Deliberately throwing a world series.

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Incredible! Do they honestly believe what they write? They sound more and more stupid everyday and I didn't think that was possible.

NFL also claims that concepts such as "due process", "presumption of innocence" and "equality before the law" are irrelevant.

Me commissioner. Patriots bad. Derp.

rochrist said:

Why would you say this? Does Judge Berman fit this image?

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Not a reference to Judge Berman but to Mike Judge. The NFL's search and hopes for an butthead-like judge to preside over their case would tilt the odds in their favor. Beavis does look a bit like Goodell though.

Meanwhile, at the Goodell pool party...

Pretty shocking that this is the hill goodell is staking his career on.

He was given a set of specific powers, and he abused those powers with rampant disregard for those it affected. as a result the union has taken the fight to him.

This was never an issue before because Paul Taligbue never abused the power.

Goodell self imposed judge jury and executioner has permanently hurt the league office, there is ZERO chance the league office retains the ability to punish players without a neutral arbitor in the future now. There is only one person to blame, and that is goodell.

Greg hardy is in the league right now, because goodell decided to abuse the power he had terribly ineptly in the ray rice case, and the saints bounty program case.

If goodell doesn't act like an ******* for a bunch of years maybe when he comes down hard on someone like hardy for something legitimately awful, everyone wont laugh because they know the ruling will be completely overturned.

Aren't they really just arguing that even *if* the report wasn't independent, that doesn't matter? Or does the league actually admit that it wasn't independent?

Obviously it was not independent, just would be surprised if the league admitted this, versus nesting independence in a conditional to cover their butts.

Gumby said:

Ps, when are the last of these owners going to wake up and smell the coffee? If they don't fire this azz clown soon, he may end up with the nfl being run by a court-appointed commish and they lose literally EVERYTHING to the nflpa.

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The last of them? When are the first of them going to wake up? They're probably all waiting for Kraft, who is too busy shining Goodell's shoes.

Patriot Missile said:

Then why say it was going to be independent in the first place? Same old song and dance. Get over yourselves and let it die turds.

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These are rich owners who are used to getting their way in everything. It is going to take awhile for them to accept that they lost, and they don't care how bad it makes the NFL look - because it will be Roger Goodell getting the blame, not them.

TomPatriot said:

Judges & Judicial Council

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Too early to worry about it, since we don't know who the judges will be.

22 Active and Senior judges.

Majority from NY/NJ, a few from CT, a couple from MA and VT (hard to tell where they were appointed from sometimes).

Appointed by: Carter (2), Reagan (1), Papa Bush (2), Clinton (7), Junior Bush (5), Obama (5). Some look like they have a profile that would be more pro-Labor, others not so much, but it's really impossible to know from reading the blurbs.

We really just have to wait and see whose names come up.

Has Florio written his thoughts on the briefing yet? He was a real asset all throughout the summer so I'm looking forward to him getting back on and trashing the NFL.

VectorPrime said:

Has Florio written his thoughts on the briefing yet? He was a real asset all throughout the summer so I'm looking forward to him getting back on and trashing the NFL.

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Goodell downplays #DeflateGate appeal