Latest Cheating Accusation; From Soon to be Toronto Jills Fans

My favorite quote from that thread:

"The whole ****ing city of Boston should be stripped of their football team. It's a **** joke. Kraft has some type of connections that over rule everything. Maybe Putin......as I've said before. No team has been this dominant for this long. There are too many instances of rule bending and breaking to think the Patriots did it on talent alone"

If that doesn't scream jealousy I don't know what does. Refs control the clock and, of course, makes this laughable.

Guy's obviously unaware of football history as well. San Francisco won 10+ games in 17 of 18 years including 16 in a row and 5 SB titles from 1981-1998, the exception being strike shortened 1982 when there was only 9 RS games and they finished 3-6. Do I care Rice used stickum? No. Those teams were just great and I tip my cap to them.

PatsBoy12 said:

The brainswashing is so pervasive now that it's sickening. Funny . . . but still sickening. Wow, 15 years of hard work, good coaching, great execution is all being reduced to nothing more than cheating to win. Wow.

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Every "cheating" issue being thrown out there is just being accepted as truth and piled upon the other false "cheating" accusations. I read a lot of the linked comments. Just wow. First the headphone thing, which was debunked, and now the clock thing which will be debunked. So even those 2 things are/will be explained to the conspiracy theorists they will still use them as part of the Jenga puzzle they are building of Pats cheating to win. Anything that could possibly be questioned at this point will cause opponents fans to run grab their pitchforks and start screaming like lunatics. Their whole foundation of the Pats success built upon cheating is built on nothing really, yet they still are foaming at the mouth.

These folks can't be reasoned with at this point. If reasoned with they would just cover their ears and say "No! No! No!" I read one of the post saying something like "No team has been this successful for this long. I can't be done on just talent alone!". That kind of comment just makes me shake my head and laugh and actually makes me proud. To be so good for so long that rival fans have to stoop to the level of "THEY MUST BE CHEATING!!!" really tells you something about how remarkable this team has really been in this salary cap world.

It is so ridiculous at this point I do look at as humorous now, where before I just simply get angry. It is interesting to read other fans opinions to see how out of whack this whole thing has become.

Kraft paid the refs off like he did with Berman.

Hope he doesnt run out of money at this pace.

RelocatedPatFan said:

They don't want to be rational or educated. Just let them mire in their own baseless conspiracies and watch what happens next week.

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OH trust me, I wasn't suggesting that so they can be rational or educated. I was suggesting it because I want to piss them off even more. LOL I couldn't care less about them being rational or educated. LOL

If we're going to post opposing fans conspiracy theories after every game we're going to need a bigger boat....

dales804 said:

That's been the case for a while. Fans of other teams just cannot understand how NE continues to win after 15 years with a 38 year old QB. As we know, losers make excuses; winners learn and get better.

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Pretty much a paraphrase of what Bill said yesterday and one that other people will never want to accept. I love it!

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One guy in Buffalo knows the rules - all the others are tipping cows and fathering their sister's children:



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"If the play clock has run down to less than 25 seconds and the ball is not ready for play, the Referee should alternately raising and lowering his arm in a pumping motion with his palm flat and facing up to have the play clock operator reset the play clock to 25 seconds. If there is a delay in getting the play clock operator to reset the play clock or there is an unusual situation, the
Referee shall declare a time out and announce that the play clock should be reset to 25 seconds. The Referee shall then signal the ball ready for play."

This is a non story. The refs keep the time, guys.
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shmessy said:

One guy in Buffalo knows the rules - all the others are tipping cows and fathering their sister's children:



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"If the play clock has run down to less than 25 seconds and the ball is not ready for play, the Referee should alternately raising and lowering his arm in a pumping motion with his palm flat and facing up to have the play clock operator reset the play clock to 25 seconds. If there is a delay in getting the play clock operator to reset the play clock or there is an unusual situation, the
Referee shall declare a time out and announce that the play clock should be reset to 25 seconds. The Referee shall then signal the ball ready for play."

This is a non story. The refs keep the time, guys.

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It was nice to see someone rational make a comment. But he may have just as well written it in white font because the irrationals just won't see it.

PatsBoy12 said:

Pretty much a paraphrase of what Bill said yesterday and one that other people will never want to accept. I love it!

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Losers can't accept it. Jealousy runs wild. Remember the CLE game in 2013? Boyce drawing the flag in the end zone? People had to say Kraft paid off the refs. Instead of concentrating on the fact CLE blew a double digit lead in minutes.

PatsBoy12 said:

Does anyone have membership to that board that can quote this post and put it up in that thread?

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I wouldn't bother. There is a serious lack of intelligent life on that board. They are paranoid about the Pats

Triumph said:

I've seen other qbs have the clock reset.

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That's the thing. The people screaming "Cheaterz1!!1" in that thread have seen that happen many, many times also. They just didn't care when it was the Falcons or Bears or Chargers or Seahawks or Texans or whoever. When it happens in a Patriots game, though, it's super secret cheating that no one has ever noticed.

What we have here is some self-delusional form of confirmation bias. self-delusional in the fact that they'll never see it happening by other teams and if it does happen, it will seem mostly legitimate or one of those things that occasionally happens.

I imagine, by the end of the season, the refs are going to be sick of being scrutinized by opposing team fans about every call that doesn't go their way.

robertweathers said:

ESPN will run with this in 2023 in an OTL article. Just to get clicks.

"Although they were cleared by the NFL, the Patriots were accused of piping their radio broadcast into the Steelers' in-game communication system..."

<sigh>

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Why would such an article even include the bolded part? I doubt it would.

OhExaulted1 said:

Kraft has some type of connections that over rule everything. Maybe Putin......as I've said before.

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DAMN IT. THEY'VE UNCOVERED THE KRAFT/PUTIN ALLIANCE BEHIND IT ALL.

realtime said:

Why would such an article even include the bolded part? I doubt it would.

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Are you serious?

It's ESPN we are talking about. Anything that drums up intrigue and controversy and casts doubt on innocence is their primary motivation.

robertweathers said:

Are you serious?

It's ESPN we are talking about. Anything that drums up intrigue and controversy and casts doubt on innocence is their primary motivation.

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I'm totally serious. Not sure you understood my post.

realtime said:

I'm totally serious. Not sure you understood my post.

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Maybe. I took you as being very literal in doubting that ESPN would put that in the 1st paragraph. Accurate?

robertweathers said:

Maybe. I took you as being very literal in doubting that ESPN would put that in the 1st paragraph. Accurate?

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I thought your post was actually giving ESPN even more credit than it deserves.

You said the article might say: "Although they were cleared by the NFL, the Patriots were accused of piping their radio broadcast into the Steelers' in-game communication system..."

My thought was why would they even mention that they were cleared by the NFL, the accusation alone will get the clicks. So I thought the article would instead read: "The Patriots were accused of piping their radio broadcast into the Steelers' in-game communication system..."

Stupid Bills fans. This happens more than people think. Whenever there is a deep pass, there is a chance of this happening since it take players and the refs so long to get back to the line of scrimmage.

But why would they do that anyway? First, the game clock is monitored by the refs and not the Patriots. Second, the League just made an accused equipment violation against Brady into a Federal case, why give him an extra 20 seconds in a game. Third, the game clock was stopped because of an incomplete pass. The Pats were up by 14 points midway through the 4th. If the refs wanted to give the Pats an advantage they would have done it on a play where the game clock was running to help run out the clock.

But that thread is indicative of the NFL culture. When it comes to the Patriots, they see ghosts and any innocent incident turns into a conspiracy.

realtime said:

I thought your post was actually giving ESPN even more credit than it deserves.

You said the article might say: "Although they were cleared by the NFL, the Patriots were accused of piping their radio broadcast into the Steelers' in-game communication system..."

My thought was why would they even mention that they were cleared by the NFL, the accusation alone will get the clicks. So I thought the article would instead read: "The Patriots were accused of piping their radio broadcast into the Steelers' in-game communication system..."

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I try to find the potential good, honesty and integrity in all living creatures..

My efforts in trying are dissipating at an accelerated rate.