Patriots’ full response to latest ESPN report

DefenseRules said:

The NFL is doing a good job of making me hate football.

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Tell me about it. I'm honestly caring less and less about kickoff. It's to the point where I'm only somewhat excited about it now. I suppose that perhaps that feeling will change on game day but this is as unenthusiastic as I've ever been about the NFL season.

DefenseRules said:

It would help if some of you STOP giving them ratings.

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You mean the possibly few hundred of us here at Patsfans? I think it would help more if we got ESPN out of the basic cable bundles and then their income will be severely diminished. That's an initiative that would hurt them. Especially while they are overpaying to host football games.

KontradictioN said:

Tell me about it. I'm honestly caring less and less about kickoff. It's to the point where I'm only somewhat excited about it now. I suppose that perhaps that feeling will change on game day but this is as unenthusiastic as I've ever been about the NFL season.

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What they don't realize is that I don't have any interest in any of their other games either. I'll watch my Pats, but the rest of the NFL is dead to me.
I will be watching a lot of College football this season.

All everyone is seeing is what this report says about the Pats. This looks worse for Goodel and the Nfl if he had evidence destroyed to stave off a senate hearing.

This should have been their response!

well I blocked ESPN on my services, believe me the cable and satellite companies track it, they know what you watch and what you block, all ESPN channels on my DTV system are blocked at this point. Along with other channels I see as trash.

This better not be the only response from the NE organization. A stupid written statement.

juny said:

This better not be the only response from the NE organization. A stupid written statement.

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Are you kidding me?
Bob is probably cowering in the corner deeply regretting he let upstart Jonathan do anything.

Kdo5 said:

A statement is not close to enough. If there is ANYTHING the Pats can do then ****ing do it. No more rolling over. If we know about skeletons in the league then FFS bring them out. It should be fire and brimstone. This is an outrage. Come out vehemently denying this by presser...anything we can do. Can't let this report stand without seriously attacking it.

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Airing the league's dirty laundry hurts Bobby Kraft's wallet. We can't have THAT.

Jonathan needs to get on the air and do some radio rounds trashing this crap. they dealt this the wrong way in 2007 and we are still paying for it.

SVN said:

Jonathan needs to get on the air and do some radio rounds trashing this crap. they dealt this the wrong way in 2007 and we are still paying for it.

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How so? They gave their tapes to the league to be destroyed. BB came out in a presser and said he interpreted the league's memo incorrectly. The Pats accepted their punishment.

I'm not sure how else they could have handled it. It's not like they weren't taping signals and the league said they were.

archstanton543 said:

I'm not sure how else they could have handled it.

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archstanton543 said:

How so? They gave their tapes to the league to be destroyed. BB came out in a presser and said he interpreted the league's memo incorrectly. The Pats accepted their punishment.

I'm not sure how else they could have handled it. It's not like they weren't taping signals and the league said they were.

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They allowed the story to be that they were punished FOR taping the signals when that wasn't the case at all. They were punished for where they were taping the signals from. The team, led by Kraft himself, took a stance of "keep quiet and it will blow over" when they should have fought it from the beginning just the way they responded to Deflategate and the way the Saints responded to Bountygate. But they didn't. They allowed pundits on ESPN to just spew incorrect information all over the place without bothering or caring to correct it and now, to this day almost a decade later, they're STILL hearing about it.

KontradictioN said:

They allowed the story to be that they were punished FOR taping the signals when that wasn't the case at all. They were punished for where they were taping the signals from. The team, led by Kraft himself, took a stance of "keep quiet and it will blow over" when they should have fought it from the beginning just the way they responded to Deflategate and the way the Saints responded to Bountygate. But they didn't. They allowed pundits on ESPN to just spew incorrect information all over the place without bothering or caring to correct it and now, to this day almost a decade later, they're STILL hearing about it.

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No they didn't. Bill Belicheck in his press conference said that he violated the memo because he misinterpreted the "for use during the game" part of it. He never addressed the placement thing because it was irrelevant. Even if he did, he still misinterpreted the "for use during the game" part.

here's my response

archstanton543 said:

No they didn't. Bill Belicheck in his press conference said that he violated the memo because he misinterpreted the "for use during the game" part of it. He never addressed the placement thing because it was irrelevant. Even if he did, he still misinterpreted the "for use during the game" part.

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What the hell are you talking about? It's not illegal to film signals. The spot that they filmed from was illegal, hence the punishment. Saying the "placement thing" is irrelevant makes zero sense and makes me think that you don't have a firm grasp on Spygate and what it was all about. The punishment itself then was draconian and the team just rolled over and accepted it while allowing entities like ESPN and the like to push the incorrect information without much of a fight.

Over 100 ESPN employees caught up in Ashley Madison hack. Is this really the time for them to declare war against us all?

Kdo5 said:

A statement is not close to enough.

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Agreed...

KontradictioN said:

What the hell are you talking about? It's not illegal to film signals. The spot that they filmed from was illegal, hence the punishment. Saying the "placement thing" is irrelevant makes zero sense and makes me think that you don't have a firm grasp on Spygate and what it was all about. The punishment itself then was draconian and the team just rolled over and accepted it while allowing entities like ESPN and the like to push the incorrect information without much of a fight.

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Here's what he said:

Belichick, however, accepted full responsibility "for the actions that led to tonight's ruling. Once again, I apologize to the Kraft family and every person directly or indirectly associated with the New England Patriots for the embarrassment, distraction and penalty my mistake caused."

"I also apologize to Patriots fans and would like to thank them for their support during the past few days and throughout my
career," Belichick said in a statement issued by the team. "As the commissioner acknowledged, our use of sideline video had no impact on the outcome of last week's game. We have never used sideline video to obtain a competitive advantage while the game was in progress."

Not nearly enough. Kraft has to go scorched earth tactics on ESPN. Something like this:

ESPN continues to spread lies about our organization regarding the spygate controversy in 2007. They are an unethical organization that prioritizes ratings and profits over reporting the truth. don't believe a single word they say or print.