RIP Ken Stabler

zoostation said:

It kills me when some 20 something Raider fan brings up the tuck rule. Both calls had huge steaks.......

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Mmmmmmm....steak........!

shmessy said:

Mmmmmmm....steak........!

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I had a friend who worked for Kinnealey Meats and he had the best steaks I ever tasted, and at a fraction of the $35 per lb that it would have cost after he got laid off about 8 years ago.

zoostation said:

It kills me when some 20 something Raider fan brings up the tuck rule. Both calls had huge steaks, but the winner was almost guaranteed to go all the way as the Pats and Raiders were by far the most talented that year (Pats actually smoked the Raiders in the regular season that same year). AND... the tuck rule was a rule. The roughing call was just a horrible call, at a horrible time, in a game that the whistles were not pulled out of the pockets of the refs for anything near questionable.

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The non call when Villapiano held Russ Francis on the previous series was even worse. If the ref didn't choke the Raiders may not have gotten the ball back. Plays I will never forget.

patsfan13 said:

The non call when Villapiano held Russ Francis on the previous series was even worse. If the ref didn't choke the Raiders may not have gotten the ball back. Plays I will never forget.

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He didn't choke. He CHEATED!!!

Jackson 2 said:

He didn't choke. He CHEATED!!!

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Missed a call, 3rd down pass to Francis, Villapiano literally pins Francis's arms to his side before ball arrives, ball hits him in the chest no call.

patsfan13 said:

Missed a call, 3rd down pass to Francis, Villapiano literally pins Francis's arms to his side before ball arrives, ball hits him in the chest no call.

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I remember every play of that game as if it were played yesterday. I meant what I posted: Ben Dreith and every other official on that field CHEATED!!! Years later on WEEI he was interviewed and all but admitted he intentionally screwed the Patriots. As I said, he CHEATED!!!

KontradictioN said:

Dancing to the Backstreet Boys?

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Just before that…ahhh…

But I was really pissed-off when Malden MA native Norman Greenbaum's Spirit in the Sky was cut short
for those god-awful Backstreet Boys. Talk about harshing the mellow.

robertweathers said:

Is it possible to be a non-violent Jihadist in the afterlife?

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No.

1960Pats said:

His announcement was 5 years ago and nobody wished him a peaceful rest.

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Who?

The Toot Fairy...

shmessy said:

I guess the kids today just focus on Fantasy Football. Think I'll go shake my fists at the ones on my lawn and tell them to cut their damn hair.

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I think adults pretty much stopped caring about kids' hair about 35 years ago, so that's a dated cliche.

But kids of today are idiots for many other reasons, unquestionably. At or near the top is smartphone culture.

patsfan13 said:

Missed a call, 3rd down pass to Francis, Villapiano literally pins Francis's arms to his side before ball arrives, ball hits him in the chest no call.

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This is the play I referenced on the previous page. The Pats didn't want to risk John Smith kicking a long FG, so they went for it on 4th down. It was either the 3rd down or 4th down play that Villipiano had no recourse but to hold Francis by pinning his arms down well before the ball arrived. It would have been a first down and the Pats would have probably killed what was left of the clock and kicked a much shorter FG to go up by 7. That non call was every bit as egregious as the phantom roughing the passer call on Sugar Bear.

Jackson 2 said:

I remember every play of that game as if it were played yesterday. I meant what I posted: Ben Dreith and every other official on that field CHEATED!!! Years later on WEEI he was interviewed and all but admitted he intentionally screwed the Patriots. As I said, he CHEATED!!!

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I didn't catch that interview, but the way that game was called shows some bias was there. This was ten times worse than the Seattle-Pittsburgh Super Bowl. The worst and most biased game I've ever seen called in the 45+ years I've spent watching football. The Raiders could have/should have been flagged at least 25-30 times that game.

I posted an in depth thread devoted to everything Ben Dreith from that game until the late 90's, including the exact quotes wherein he admitted unabashedly that he screwed the Patriots...and went on to explain his hatred for easterners in no uncertain terms.Scumbags like this are with us always.

zoostation said:

It kills me when some 20 something Raider fan brings up the tuck rule. Both calls had huge steaks, but the winner was almost guaranteed to go all the way as the Pats and Raiders were by far the most talented that year (Pats actually smoked the Raiders in the regular season that same year). AND... the tuck rule was a rule. The roughing call was just a horrible call, at a horrible time, in a game that the whistles were not pulled out of the pockets of the refs for anything near questionable.

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The comparison is fair. The Pats were lucky that the ref reviewed and overturned the original call in the days before such reviews were mandatory. And, let's never forget Tom Brady's ****-eating grin after the game when he answered a reporter's questions with the words, "Yeah, sure, I was trying to tuck it."

Joker said:

I posted an in depth thread devoted to everything Ben Dreith from that game until the late 90's, including the exact quotes wherein he admitted unabashedly that he screwed the Patriots...and went on to explain his hatred for easterners in no uncertain terms.Scumbags like this are with us always.

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Indeed. Several presently reside just a few hours down route 95.

shmessy said:

Mmmmmmm....steak........!

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crap..... i better move my "e" over a couple of spots, the internet gammer and spelling patrol is out in full force. ahh much better

patsfan13 said:

The non call when Villapiano held Russ Francis on the previous series was even worse. If the ref didn't choke the Raiders may not have gotten the ball back. Plays I will never forget.

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Good point. That just made the roughing more difficult to take.

Even the Snake admitted the call was BS.

"That should have never been a penalty," Stabler told McDonough. "I got hit a lot worse than that in my career and it was never called. Hamilton just went for the ball and landed on me. That's all that happened."

The Pats coaching staff chased the refs through the parking lot. lol.

Pats were stacked with talent that year but most of the country was in love with the Raiders

http://www.boston.com/sports/footba...friday_its_still_tough_to_look_back_at_r.html

zoostation said:

crap..... i better move my "e" over a couple of spots, the internet gammer and spelling patrol is out in full force. ahh much better

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Just trying to keep everyone safe out there - slow down and keep the seat belts on. It's dangerous out there!