Who Leads NFL in Downfield Passing Over Last Three Weeks?

Brady'sButtBoy · Oct 22, 2014

Our very own TB12. Who says he can't throw the deep ball?

From ESPN-

Tom Brady has the highest completion percentage (68 percent) and most passing touchdowns (5) on throws 15 or more yards downfield since the start of Week 5. Brady is 3-0 in his career against the Bears with a QBR of 90 in his past two starts against them.

Kontradiction · Oct 22, 2014

Even more impressive considering the surrounding cast. Brady does more with less than any quarterback in the NFL. Manning does less with more than any quarterback in the NFL.

Rob0729 · Oct 22, 2014

Wait a second, weren't we hearing that Brady was the worst intermediate and deep ball passer in the league and cannot complete a pass over 15 yards? Are you saying the talking heads may have overreacted and were wrong? That never happens.

borg · Oct 22, 2014

KontradictioN said:
Manning does less with more than any quarterback in the NFL.

Less?.......Season and career passing records = less? #1 seeds and a SB appearances = less?
Are we just abandoning the thought process entirely?
And I know the reaction to follow....."Manning is surrounded by 1st round offensive stars"....and that should be the end of discussion...right? If teams only suited up 25 players, all on offense, that would be a sound argument. I bet that Seattle and Baltimore and the NY Giants (twice) would provide a pretty solid counter argument about the winning formula of deploying "more."
The formula on this board is pretty simple....Brady>Manning and I can't argue against Brady based on career success and trophies. BUT.......if you look at the 2 QBs from 2007 and forward........2007 being the mutually understood beginning of the passing era of the NFL.....The 2 QBs are virtually identical in stats, wins, and lack of trophies.....but Manning is the failure? Gotcha.

PatsWickedPissah · Oct 22, 2014

I have no problem giving Peyton his due.
Plus he's the better commercials actor, hands down.

Kontradiction · Oct 22, 2014

borg said:
Less?.......Season and career passing records = less? #1 seeds and a SB appearances = less?
Are we just abandoning the thought process entirely?
And I know the reaction to follow....."Manning is surrounded by 1st round offensive stars"....and that should be the end of discussion...right? If teams only suited up 25 players, all on offense, that would be a sound argument. I bet that Seattle and Baltimore and the NY Giants (twice) would provide a pretty solid counter argument about the winning formula of deploying "more."
The formula on this board is pretty simple....Brady>Manning and I can't argue against Brady based on career success and trophies. BUT.......if you look at the 2 QBs from 2007 and forward........2007 being the mutually understood beginning of the passing era of the NFL.....The 2 QBs are virtually identical in stats, wins, and lack of trophies.....but Manning is the failure? Gotcha.

Playoff wins and Super Bowls are what counts. Yes, Manning does less with more than any quarterback in the league. And why would you narrow the playing field to 2007 unless you're trying to serve an agenda of some type?

Galeb · Oct 22, 2014

borg said:
Less?.......Season and career passing records = less? #1 seeds and a SB appearances = less?
Are we just abandoning the thought process entirely?
And I know the reaction to follow....."Manning is surrounded by 1st round offensive stars"....and that should be the end of discussion...right? If teams only suited up 25 players, all on offense, that would be a sound argument. I bet that Seattle and Baltimore and the NY Giants (twice) would provide a pretty solid counter argument about the winning formula of deploying "more."
The formula on this board is pretty simple....Brady>Manning and I can't argue against Brady based on career success and trophies. BUT.......if you look at the 2 QBs from 2007 and forward........2007 being the mutually understood beginning of the passing era of the NFL.....The 2 QBs are virtually identical in stats, wins, and lack of trophies.....but Manning is the failure? Gotcha.

Not everyone on this board thinks Manning is a loser. Unfortunately, it is probably the majority. Even considering his weapons, what he does with such a limited arm is pretty impressive.

Kontradiction · Oct 22, 2014

Galeb said:
Not everyone on this board thinks Manning is a loser. Unfortunately, it is probably the majority. Even considering his weapons, what he does with such a limited arm is pretty impressive.

This is a straw man. I never said Manning was a loser. Go back and re-read my post and note the difference between me calling him a loser and saying that he does less with more.

Galeb · Oct 22, 2014

KontradictioN said:
This is a straw man. I never said Manning was a loser. Go back and re-read my post and note the difference between me calling him a loser and saying that he does less with more.

I was responding to someone else and not referring to you directly.

Either way, most on this board, including you, are more negative about Manning than he deserves.

For the record, I think Brady is better.

condon84 · Oct 22, 2014

I thought Brady didn't have any weapons. Who's he throwing to?

shmessy · Oct 22, 2014

condon84 said:
I thought Brady didn't have any weapons. Who's he throwing to?

Plus the OL is definitely coming around.

Brady isn't exactly surrounded by Dresden, 1945 anymore.

Ryan Hannable @RyanHannable
Tom Brady had the most time in the pocket from snap to attempt (2.7 secs, per @PFF) vs. Jets last week since Week 12 of '12, also vs. Jets.

Kontradiction · Oct 22, 2014

Galeb said:
I was responding to someone else and not referring to you directly.

Either way, most on this board, including you, are more negative about Manning than he deserves.

For the record, I think Brady is better.

What's negative about measuring Manning by his playoff and Super Bowl success? I've mentioned many, many times on this forum that he's one of the greatest QB's of the modern era. But he's also a choking dog in big time situations.

dales804 · Oct 22, 2014

KontradictioN said:
What's negative about measuring Manning by his playoff and Super Bowl success? I've mentioned many, many times on this forum that he's one of the greatest QB's of the modern era. But he's also a choking dog in big time situations.

Deus Irae · Oct 22, 2014

Gronk's healthier
LaFell's getting the offense better
OL is playing better

Brady's corresponding "improvement" sounds just like what so many of us were saying would happen when/if those improvements happened.

Brady_to_Moss · Oct 22, 2014

surprised ESPN didn't make up a stat so they could say it was manning...you know becasue he's god

signbabybrady · Oct 22, 2014

This team not throwing deep is a fallacy.

We don't throw deep outside the numbers as much as other teams but we throw deep seem routes more than most teams.

pctronics0072 · Oct 22, 2014

shmessy said:
Plus the OL is definitely coming around.

Brady isn't exactly surrounded by Dresden, 1945 anymore.

Ryan Hannable @RyanHannable
Tom Brady had the most time in the pocket from snap to attempt (2.7 secs, per @PFF) vs. Jets last week since Week 12 of '12, also vs. Jets.

While that is great and in no way am i dismissing that, Jets were only rushing 3 moat of that game becaise they are the jests.

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