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Hobbs did the "Lights out" dance on San Diego's logo after beating the Chargers in the 2006 divisional round. I don't know if it is out there, but shortly after the game a vid was on the internet showing the Pats going to the locker room after that game. They were hootin and hollering, yelling lights out and all kinds of crap.

I didn't mind the dancing on the logo, but I thought the crap in the tunnel after it reflected badly on the team.

That was Rosie Colvin. "The lights are out!"
 
Back to the OP, some comments (I've edited original to the points I want to address). I find it amusing that in the examples you used:

- The Patriots "had swagger" in 2007 and lost the Super Bowl. The team lost the Super Bowl in 2011, too, but apparently without the swagger.

- The Patriots "had swagger" in 2006 when they beat the Chargers in the example you continually bring up. They lost in the AFC Championship Game on the road to the Fivehead. The 2013 Patriots lost in the 2013 AFC Championship Game on the road to the Fivehead, too, but apparently without the swagger.

Yet you're saying we used to win Super Bowls? The examples you're using are from the times the team *didn't* win Super Bowls.

In fact, I was embarrassed after the 2006 game against San Diego -- it was a complete deviation of how the team has behaved *on the field* during the entire era. The team would trash talk during the game, and trash talk in the media after the game, but never do a public display on the field (touchdown dances don't count) and never trash talk in the media before hand. I remember having to defend the Pats in 2006 to a Bears fan who had always admired the Pats behavior during the dynasty, and couldn't believe what he saw after the game.

The teams have generally behaved consistently the entire time:

- The Pats ripped apart Indy in the media after the 2004 Divisional Round game in a year they won the Super Bowl
- The "Fred Ex" comments from Belichick came after they won the 2004 Super Bowl
- The Pats completely tore apart Houston in the media after the 2012 regular season victory in a year they lost the AFC Championship Game.
- All of Tom Brady's on-field antics and trash talking the last few years, including him trash talking Richard Sherman in a game they lost in 2012.

I think you're misinterpreting the issue. The fact is, this team has consistently had the swagger over the BB era. Swagger isn't what changed in the team. The hard-hitting defense is what changed. Rodney, Bruschi, and those guys would physically punish players on the field. After they retired, we've had a bunch of talented players who happened to not be intimidators (Mayo, McCourty). The few players that have been hard-hitters on the defense were morons who wound up having to have their roles marginalized because they couldn't get it (Meriwether, Spikes).

I for one have missed that hard-hitting defense, and really hope that Revis/Browner can bring that back. Those guys combined with Mayo and McCourty may just be the perfect recipe. Can't wait to see them in action, and hope that injuries won't prevent that from happening.

Well, this is all pretty much spot on, although I didn't feel the same way you did about the 2006 Charger game because I sort of hated them at that time, so let me expand on my original post a little bit. I just don't mind that stuff considering how much hate we get from everyone. The way I look at it is, if everyone is going to absolutely despise us to the point that they have no problem with being blatantly dishonest in their attacks of this organization, then why not give them a legitimate reason? It's like your Poppa used to say, "If you keep crying, I'll give you something to cry about."

Last season was especially frustrating. The last few seasons were, but last season especially, and I couldn't help but end the year with the conviction that nice guys finish last. Ward blatantly dives at Gronk's knees, and the ENTIRE internet celebrates an obviously malicious play that took out a premier player of the National Football League. Welker clips Talib in the AFC Championship game in a really shady move and everyone thinks it's hilarious and tells us to stop crying.

When our guys are all injured, that's when everyone else seems the most obnoxious about beating us since in many cases that's the only time they do.

If the team, especially on the defensive side of the ball, is as good and as dominant as I think they're going to be, I want to see a trail of tears in 2014, and I want as much salt grinded into the wounds of the teams we hate and beat as possible.

Maximum pain.

I want a full fledged FU tour
 
That was Rosie Colvin. "The lights are out!"
He was definitely the worst of the bunch. Apparently the Chargers could hear the whole thing from their locker room.
 
Neither does being a soulless, bland, robotic football organization.

The last two Superbowl champions had an over abundance of attitude. So did the Giants before them. So did the TWO Giant teams that beat us in the big game.

Patriot fans have just bought into the BS of "The Patriot Way" (for fans) and have become a bunch of Mary Sue's that want to walk timidly through every single season and hope we don't upset anyone while tip toeing to a Superbowl championship we never win.

This is the NFL. Not the friendly retirement home league.


Thanks for the insight, Rex.
 
Excuse my #SWAG.

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